Singletracks Mountain Bike News, Reviews, MTB Trails and Community › Protected: Forums › Mountain Bike Forum › lockout suspension ?
Tagged: suspension
-
AuthorPosts
-
-
August 15, 2013 at 14:28 #121582
when to lock out suspension and when not to lock out suspension ?
-
August 15, 2013 at 16:52 #121583
I never lock mine out. But I only have front may be different if I rode a suspension bike.
-
August 15, 2013 at 18:50 #121584
The suggeested time to use a lockout is when grinding up an incline on something like a road. It’s supposed to help you lose less effort to bike bob, allowing more of your effort to go to getting you up the hill.
That being said, I’ve yet to own a bike that I bothered using the lockouts on. For me, it’s a wasted feature.
-
August 15, 2013 at 19:07 #121585
well said ty
-
August 16, 2013 at 05:15 #121586
My rear shock is set to pro-pedal most of my rides, only when it’s getting rougher on downhills, I open it. My front shock is locked, when I climb on gravel roads or when I’m riding fast on paved roads
-
August 16, 2013 at 09:55 #121587
I have a pro-pedal rear also, and it seems to do a pretty good job of smoothing it out. I don’t have much of an issue from my front either. I doubt I would use the option if I had it, although it does seem like it could be handy on really steep uphills where you have to put in a ton of effort.
-
August 16, 2013 at 14:04 #121588"jstrobby" wrote
when to lock out suspension and when not to lock out suspension ?
Do you mean shock or suspension fork? Lots of people are responding about pro-pedal, which is on fox shocks. It isn’t a lock out; I’m not sure of any shocks that lock out. So I’ll assume you mean suspension fork. People have answered above this when to do it, but I thought I’d mention that it is not a useless feature. Common sense will tell you companies wouldn’t spend millions on R&D on something useless. And people wouldn’t be upgrading to forks with remote lockouts if they were remotely doing something useless. If you aren’t racing you may not need the feature, but those who take mtb seriously use it religiously to become faster.
-
August 16, 2013 at 16:03 #121589"d_cushman" wrote
[quote="jstrobby":tngnc6vg]when to lock out suspension and when not to lock out suspension ?
Do you mean shock or suspension fork? Lots of people are responding about pro-pedal, which is on fox shocks. It isn’t a lock out; I’m not sure of any shocks that lock out. So I’ll assume you mean suspension fork. People have answered above this when to do it, but I thought I’d mention that it is not a useless feature. Common sense will tell you companies wouldn’t spend millions on R&D on something useless. And people wouldn’t be upgrading to forks with remote lockouts if they were remotely doing something useless. If you aren’t racing you may not need the feature, but those who take mtb seriously use it religiously to become faster.[/quote:tngnc6vg]
I don’t think anyone said it was useless, just not for them. I would agree with you though that it is useful for racers or hardcore riders. And you can get rear shocks with lockouts, so he could be talking about either front or rear. RockShox and DT Swiss, among other I’m sure, make shocks with lockouts.And face it, we’re just all jealous our forks don’t have it 😆
-
August 17, 2013 at 02:22 #121590"d_cushman" wrote
Do you mean shock or suspension fork? Lots of people are responding about pro-pedal, which is on fox shocks.
Since I started with pro-pedal – I refered to both, front and rear
Fox and Rock Shox didn’t use a real lockout on the rear suspension, while DT Swiss and Manitou still do.
-
August 18, 2013 at 18:08 #121591"ollysj" wrote
Fox and Rock Shox didn’t use a real lockout on the rear suspension, while DT Swiss and Manitou still do.
DT Swiss – good to know. Haven’t ridden their shocks.
-
August 18, 2013 at 18:09 #121592"gar29" wrote
I don’t think anyone said it was useless, just not for them.
"wasted feature" = useless in my book
-
August 18, 2013 at 18:13 #121593"d_cushman" wrote
"wasted feature" = useless in my book
"schwim" wrote[size=200:136raow2][color=#FF0000:136raow2]For me[/color:136raow2][/size:136raow2], it’s a wasted feature.
There. Just in case you missed that bit of the sentence.
-
August 18, 2013 at 19:00 #121594"schwim" wrote
[quote="schwim":wloarw9x][size=200:wloarw9x][color=#FF0000:wloarw9x]For me[/color:wloarw9x][/size:wloarw9x], it’s a wasted feature.
There. Just in case you missed that bit of the sentence.[/quote:wloarw9x]
I didn’t say you [i:wloarw9x]are [/i:wloarw9x]fat, honey, I just said "[i:wloarw9x]in my opinion[/i:wloarw9x] you’re fat." -
August 18, 2013 at 19:18 #121595
If you’re unable to understand that all technology may not be useful to all riders, then sure, your analogy was perfect.
On a related note, I really would have enjoyed pedaling a DH bike on my last xc ride with an average speed of 5 mph and 2k feet of climb. Because, you know…. the technology is useful to everyone at all times.
-
October 17, 2013 at 16:24 #121596
I never use my Fox shock lock, except when I’m testing something. That said, I just did a tough ride after accidentally leaving it locked. After using a full-sus bike for just over a year, the twitchiness was very noticeable. I guess I am officially addicted to full sus. Hope I didn’t hurt the shock though. Is damage to the shock possible when making big drops on a locked shock?
-
October 17, 2013 at 21:13 #121597
I never lock mine out. Maybe if I rode on the street I would, but then I’d have to shave my legs and grow an ironic mustache.
-
November 1, 2013 at 02:41 #121598"SailorTed" wrote
I never use my Fox shock lock, except when I’m testing something. That said, I just did a tough ride after accidentally leaving it locked. After using a full-sus bike for just over a year, the twitchiness was very noticeable. I guess I am officially addicted to full sus. Hope I didn’t hurt the shock though. Is damage to the shock possible when making big drops on a locked shock?
Oooops. Na just kid, just kid. You didn’t hurt it. They didn’t spend "millions" of $$$, but you get the idea. You’ll be al ight. I tried the lock feature for like 30 feet and was like "GROSS!!!", I set it back and continued shredding. My wife thinks I don’t need it either.
Have a good one,
-GT -
November 1, 2013 at 07:37 #121599
I have a single pivot rear suspension on my Airborne Zeppelin. Pedal bob was always a big issue with the cheap shock that my bike originally came with. I then upgraded to a Rock Shox Monarch RT3. The ProPedal settings are a huge benefit for my bike. I have tried all the 3 gate release settings (Climb,Trail, & Descend). There is also a dial from rabbit to turtle for the shock rebound speed setting.
By far, my favorite setting is the Climb (stiffest ProPedal floodgate setting), with the rebound speed set half way. This gives me the best ProPedal efficiency for zero wasted energy on pedal bob. It releases very well for bigger hits so it is not really a full lockout. The medium rebound also makes the ride compliant over the bumpier stuff without being too harsh.
So, I usually just set it on the climb setting and rarely change it (except when it gets very bumpy over long distances). My front fork also has a ProPedal floodgate lockout. On the front I normally set it to 3/4 way to full stiff. It still unlocks if I hit a bigger bump.
-
March 8, 2014 at 18:12 #121600
If I have a flat long climb i will lock my shock out, I usually always leave my fork in trail mode. I think it really depends on your rear suspension set up whether or not you need to lock it out. I have a very low center of gravity system and I do not get a lot of pedal bob, I have a friend who rides a Santa Cruz Bronson and he gets twice as much "bob" as me, therefore he is locking out more….but like we have all seen locking out is a personal opinion, when I was younger and in better shape I never locked out.
-
August 27, 2014 at 20:26 #121601
I’ve started just keeping mine open all the time now when I’m on trails. I actually like the peddling more with it all the way open. I used to just keep it in trail mode but I noticed the pivot creaking and found it harder on my lower back. I ride trails with fairly small climbs and lots of flowing turns so peddle bob isn’t ever an issue.
-
September 5, 2014 at 12:15 #121602
I most certainly use my lock out on my single speed. When I am standing and mashing, its like shifting to a different gear when I hit the remote lock out on my Manitou. Its usually only locked out during climbing, otherwise its open.
On my FS bike, I never lock the front and 90% of the time its in Propedal platform on the rear.
-
-
AuthorPosts
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.