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    • #121582

      when to lock out suspension and when not to lock out suspension ?

    • #121583

      I never lock mine out. But I only have front may be different if I rode a suspension bike.

    • #121584

      The suggeested time to use a lockout is when grinding up an incline on something like a road. It’s supposed to help you lose less effort to bike bob, allowing more of your effort to go to getting you up the hill.

      That being said, I’ve yet to own a bike that I bothered using the lockouts on. For me, it’s a wasted feature.

    • #121585

      well said ty

    • #121586

      My rear shock is set to pro-pedal most of my rides, only when it’s getting rougher on downhills, I open it. My front shock is locked, when I climb on gravel roads or when I’m riding fast on paved roads

    • #121587

      I have a pro-pedal rear also, and it seems to do a pretty good job of smoothing it out. I don’t have much of an issue from my front either. I doubt I would use the option if I had it, although it does seem like it could be handy on really steep uphills where you have to put in a ton of effort.

    • #121588
      "jstrobby" wrote

      when to lock out suspension and when not to lock out suspension ?

      Do you mean shock or suspension fork? Lots of people are responding about pro-pedal, which is on fox shocks. It isn’t a lock out; I’m not sure of any shocks that lock out. So I’ll assume you mean suspension fork. People have answered above this when to do it, but I thought I’d mention that it is not a useless feature. Common sense will tell you companies wouldn’t spend millions on R&D on something useless. And people wouldn’t be upgrading to forks with remote lockouts if they were remotely doing something useless. If you aren’t racing you may not need the feature, but those who take mtb seriously use it religiously to become faster.

    • #121589
      "d_cushman" wrote

      [quote="jstrobby":tngnc6vg]when to lock out suspension and when not to lock out suspension ?

      Do you mean shock or suspension fork? Lots of people are responding about pro-pedal, which is on fox shocks. It isn’t a lock out; I’m not sure of any shocks that lock out. So I’ll assume you mean suspension fork. People have answered above this when to do it, but I thought I’d mention that it is not a useless feature. Common sense will tell you companies wouldn’t spend millions on R&D on something useless. And people wouldn’t be upgrading to forks with remote lockouts if they were remotely doing something useless. If you aren’t racing you may not need the feature, but those who take mtb seriously use it religiously to become faster.[/quote:tngnc6vg]
      I don’t think anyone said it was useless, just not for them. I would agree with you though that it is useful for racers or hardcore riders. And you can get rear shocks with lockouts, so he could be talking about either front or rear. RockShox and DT Swiss, among other I’m sure, make shocks with lockouts.

      And face it, we’re just all jealous our forks don’t have it 😆

    • #121590
      "d_cushman" wrote

      Do you mean shock or suspension fork? Lots of people are responding about pro-pedal, which is on fox shocks.

      Since I started with pro-pedal – I refered to both, front and rear

      Fox and Rock Shox didn’t use a real lockout on the rear suspension, while DT Swiss and Manitou still do.

    • #121591
      "ollysj" wrote

      Fox and Rock Shox didn’t use a real lockout on the rear suspension, while DT Swiss and Manitou still do.

      DT Swiss – good to know. Haven’t ridden their shocks.

    • #121592
      "gar29" wrote

      I don’t think anyone said it was useless, just not for them.

      "wasted feature" = useless in my book ;)

    • #121593
      "d_cushman" wrote

      "wasted feature" = useless in my book ;)

      "schwim" wrote

      [size=200:136raow2][color=#FF0000:136raow2]For me[/color:136raow2][/size:136raow2], it’s a wasted feature.

      There. Just in case you missed that bit of the sentence.

    • #121594
      "schwim" wrote

      [quote="schwim":wloarw9x][size=200:wloarw9x][color=#FF0000:wloarw9x]For me[/color:wloarw9x][/size:wloarw9x], it’s a wasted feature.

      There. Just in case you missed that bit of the sentence.[/quote:wloarw9x]
      I didn’t say you [i:wloarw9x]are [/i:wloarw9x]fat, honey, I just said "[i:wloarw9x]in my opinion[/i:wloarw9x] you’re fat."

    • #121595

      If you’re unable to understand that all technology may not be useful to all riders, then sure, your analogy was perfect.

      On a related note, I really would have enjoyed pedaling a DH bike on my last xc ride with an average speed of 5 mph and 2k feet of climb. Because, you know…. the technology is useful to everyone at all times.

    • #121596

      I never use my Fox shock lock, except when I’m testing something. That said, I just did a tough ride after accidentally leaving it locked. After using a full-sus bike for just over a year, the twitchiness was very noticeable. I guess I am officially addicted to full sus. Hope I didn’t hurt the shock though. Is damage to the shock possible when making big drops on a locked shock?

    • #121597

      I never lock mine out. Maybe if I rode on the street I would, but then I’d have to shave my legs and grow an ironic mustache.

    • #121598
      "SailorTed" wrote

      I never use my Fox shock lock, except when I’m testing something. That said, I just did a tough ride after accidentally leaving it locked. After using a full-sus bike for just over a year, the twitchiness was very noticeable. I guess I am officially addicted to full sus. Hope I didn’t hurt the shock though. Is damage to the shock possible when making big drops on a locked shock?

      Oooops. Na just kid, just kid. You didn’t hurt it. They didn’t spend "millions" of $$$, but you get the idea. You’ll be al ight. I tried the lock feature for like 30 feet and was like "GROSS!!!", I set it back and continued shredding. My wife thinks I don’t need it either.

      Have a good one,
      -GT

    • #121599

      I have a single pivot rear suspension on my Airborne Zeppelin. Pedal bob was always a big issue with the cheap shock that my bike originally came with. I then upgraded to a Rock Shox Monarch RT3. The ProPedal settings are a huge benefit for my bike. I have tried all the 3 gate release settings (Climb,Trail, & Descend). There is also a dial from rabbit to turtle for the shock rebound speed setting.

      By far, my favorite setting is the Climb (stiffest ProPedal floodgate setting), with the rebound speed set half way. This gives me the best ProPedal efficiency for zero wasted energy on pedal bob. It releases very well for bigger hits so it is not really a full lockout. The medium rebound also makes the ride compliant over the bumpier stuff without being too harsh.

      So, I usually just set it on the climb setting and rarely change it (except when it gets very bumpy over long distances). My front fork also has a ProPedal floodgate lockout. On the front I normally set it to 3/4 way to full stiff. It still unlocks if I hit a bigger bump.

    • #121600

      If I have a flat long climb i will lock my shock out, I usually always leave my fork in trail mode. I think it really depends on your rear suspension set up whether or not you need to lock it out. I have a very low center of gravity system and I do not get a lot of pedal bob, I have a friend who rides a Santa Cruz Bronson and he gets twice as much "bob" as me, therefore he is locking out more….but like we have all seen locking out is a personal opinion, when I was younger and in better shape I never locked out.

    • #121601

      I’ve started just keeping mine open all the time now when I’m on trails. I actually like the peddling more with it all the way open. I used to just keep it in trail mode but I noticed the pivot creaking and found it harder on my lower back. I ride trails with fairly small climbs and lots of flowing turns so peddle bob isn’t ever an issue.

    • #121602

      I most certainly use my lock out on my single speed. When I am standing and mashing, its like shifting to a different gear when I hit the remote lock out on my Manitou. Its usually only locked out during climbing, otherwise its open.

      On my FS bike, I never lock the front and 90% of the time its in Propedal platform on the rear.

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