AJ711 and Lucinda,
Thanks for the advice. AJ711 (I feel like we are talking in code) I happen to live at the top of a gravel drive that is .6 miles uphill so i did what you suggested. MAX was 176 top no way it was going higher. Absolutely no way. All out out sprint five times as you suggested. I took a ride after that and only got it to 174 on an all out effort up a one mile hill that was not so gentle. I think on the next nice day I will try it again just to double check. Thanks for the advice.