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I have wanted to build my own personal mountain bike trail for a very long time… probably since I first started mountain biking. The opportunity (i.e. time and land) never really presented itself… until now.
Admittedly, I still don’t really have the time to do it (who does?) and we don’t have much land to work with, but we’re going for it anyways! The woods in question is a little patch of forest at my inlaws’. For some reason, I had never realized how much woods there actually was on their plot of land. When I realized it a few weeks ago, I quickly got permission from my father-in-law to turn it into a mountain bike trail! Since they live an hour and a half away, we only get over there every now and then, so I didn’t get a chance to start on the trail until this weekend.
Since the area is so small, we’re winding the trail back and forth in order to fit as much singletrack in as possible. There’s going to be one long downhill straightaway, but the rest will be pretty slow-speed trail. Since the trail is so tight and there won’t be much of it, obviously this won’t be a great trail for getting miles in your legs.
Instead, in honor of the severe lack of technical mountain biking in the state of Georgia, we are going to build as gnarly of a trail as we possibly can! Plans include rock gardens, tons of bridges, skinnies, a few jumps, a drop or two, berms, and logovers.
The question: is there anything that you think we should specifically build into this trail?What we’ve got done so far:
So far we’ve (my future brother-in-law and I (once removed? he’s marrying my sister-in-law, cool guy, featured in today’s POD.)) cut the corridor and raked out all of section 1 and part of section 2. (Section 1 is going to be tight and twisty and section 2 is the long downhill). We still need to dig down to dirt and dig in a benchcut in spots, and then start building features.
The going has been tough and it’s just getting tougher… as you can see from the last photo, it’s basically like trying to cut a trail through a flippin’ jungle. So yeah, it’s a lot of work, but when it’s done… it will be well worth it!
I’m hoping to have all 5 sections cut and the tread dug in by the end of the winter. After that, it’s time to build technical features!
I’ll use this thread to keep ya’ll updated on how things progress. And I’d love to hear some feedback on what features you think we should build in to the trail!
Photos of what we’ve built so far:
Follows a pipeline through the woods:
Turnoff onto the real trail:
One of the tightest turns. really need to berm this up:
End of section 1, beginning of section 2, and section 3 will end (or begin, I suppose) right here as well:
Beginning of section 2:
It’s like trying to cut a trail through a jungle… but hopefully it’ll be worth it!:
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Wow, great description and pics. How long is the loop?
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Good pics. Land looks cool. A tight woods course will keep your skills and heart rate up. To get the most out of the land do a trail system that circles from the outside in to the center and a straight line out near the start. That way you can reverse the direction and wear the path in both ways. Good luck with it. When’s the first National? Just asking. 😄 Later,
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Good plan Greg, looks like fun times.My thought would be to build the rock garden as big as you can, hahaha, I LOVE rock gardens…
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@trek7k, I’m not totally sure how much distance we’ve built so far. My GPS said that section 1 was only .15 miles long… and while it admittedly isn’t very long, since it literally doubles back on itself super tightly, I wonder how accurate a gps would be at picking up every little bit of trail. Probably going to try it with a cycling computer or just pacing it out…
@fat billy, that thought had crossed my mind… but I decided to go with a switchbacked design, although some parts are stretched out and flowier. I can’t wait to get everything cut out… it’s gonna be awesome!
@steve, yes, there are going to be plenty of rocks! I’m going to route the bottom of section 2 straight through a massive natural rock garden that I found out in the woods. Planning on possibly building a couple by hand as well.Thanks for the ideas, keep ’em coming!
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Almost 2/10 of a mile – not bad! I’ll have to get you down here to Atlanta to ride a couple "unofficial" trails to give you some more ideas. The trailbuilders are packing [i:10ekn7ba]miles[/i:10ekn7ba] of trail into just a few acres!
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Got any elbow room for a pump track???
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"trek7k" wrote
Almost 2/10 of a mile – not bad! I’ll have to get you down here to Atlanta to ride a couple "unofficial" trails to give you some more ideas. The trailbuilders are packing [i:21s702bl]miles[/i:21s702bl] of trail into just a few acres!
Yes, we’ll need to make that happen… Maybe when my light comes in I can come down for one of those night rides.
"steve32300" wroteGot any elbow room for a pump track???
There is, but I don’t think they want me destroying their entire backyard 😄
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"mtbgreg1" wrote
Plans include rock gardens, tons of bridges, skinnies, a few jumps, a drop or two, berms, and logovers.
The question: is there anything that you think we should specifically build into this trail?Teeter totters?
I’ll echoes steve32300’s question about the pump track, but since you don’t want to tear up their yard, maybe just a small section of pumpable rollers? (bonus points for incorporating a switchback/180 bermed turn into it 😃)
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"Jared13" wrote
[quote="mtbgreg1":kf5gpdfv]Plans include rock gardens, tons of bridges, skinnies, a few jumps, a drop or two, berms, and logovers.
The question: is there anything that you think we should specifically build into this trail?Teeter totters?
I’ll echoes steve32300’s question about the pump track, but since you don’t want to tear up their yard, maybe just a small section of pumpable rollers? (bonus points for incorporating a switchback/180 bermed turn into it 😃)[/quote:kf5gpdfv]
Teeter totters would be sweet… I’ll definitely have to try to work one in.
Perhaps I can make one of the shorter sections into a pump track-like trail. It may be on a hill, but it’d be nice to build one section with killer flow. Right near the top of the section where it might work best there’s a large pile of unused dirt too… could be perfect roller and berm-building material!
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I wouldn’t go too crazy on man made features. All of that stuff has to be maintained to stay safe, and like you said, you’re there that often. I’d be nice to just ride when you do visit, not work on stuff.
Make sure you read thru IMBA’s trailbuilding tips (look at all the links on the lower right!): http://www.imba.com/resources/trail-building
The more sustainable you build it now the less work you have to do later, and the more time you can spend riding
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"dgaddis" wrote
I wouldn’t go too crazy on man made features. All of that stuff has to be maintained to stay safe, and like you said, you’re there that often. I’d be nice to just ride when you do visit, not work on stuff.
Make sure you read thru IMBA’s trailbuilding tips (look at all the links on the lower right!): http://www.imba.com/resources/trail-building
The more sustainable you build it now the less work you have to do later, and the more time you can spend riding
Good points man. I’ll definitely check out those resources.
Guess I should have posted it earlier, but here’s a step-by-step process of how I’ll go about building the trail:
1) Flag Route
2) Cut Corridor
3) Rake Tread
4) Dig Benchcut
5) Build Obstacles, Finish TrailI’m planning on doing 1-4 on all 4-5 sections of trail before I start on step 5. IE I want to get the whole thing sustainable and rideable before I worry about putting in tons of features.
But features there will be… just might not happen until next spring or summer.
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What is the bench cut?
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"GALAXY" wrote
What is the bench cut?
Where the trail is cut into the side of the hill like a bench as it roughly parallels the contour lines. As opposed to a fall-line trail which runs straight down the hill.
Fall line trails = erode into a ditch in a few years.
Bench cut trails = sustainable and last for decades.Example of a trail benchcut into the hillside:
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"mtbgreg1" wrote
Fall line trails = erode into a ditch in a few years.
Bench cut trails = sustainable and last for decades.And bench cut trails give you a nice place to sit if you need to take a break.
Yes, I’m speaking from experience!
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I see,makes sense now,haha.
I guess in Florida, there’s not much of a need to do that but if I do need to do that in the future, I’ll know what it’s called.
I wouldn’t go crazy on the man made features either but some are necessary to make it fun and variable.
Lookin good!
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"GALAXY" wrote
I see,makes sense now,haha.
I guess in Florida, there’s not much of a need to do that but if I do need to do that in the future, I’ll know what it’s called.
I wouldn’t go crazy on the man made features either but some are necessary to make it fun and variable.
Lookin good!
Yeah, i suppose there isn’t much change in vertical down there 😃
I was reading on the IMBA website the other day, and I was actually kind of surprised to read that they advise against building trails on any sort of flat ground. They recommend building all trails benchcut into the side of the hill. The reasoning was that if the ground is totally flat, the trail won’t be able to drain, and it’ll become swampy and/or sandy. Makes sense now that I think about it. Article: http://www.imba.com/resources/trail-bui … ble-trails
And thanks for the advice on the man-made stuff. We’ll see what happens
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Call Santa and get a Bob Cat for Christmas. I’m sure the relatives will not care, it’s the Holidays afterall. 😄 Later,
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I’ve recently begun walking my back yard in an attempt to build a small trail for my daughter and I to ride and would very much like to hear and see your updates as they happen. Although I’ve got a lot more underbrush to deal with, my topography and composition is very similar to yours.
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"schwim" wrote
I’ve recently begun walking my back yard in an attempt to build a small trail for my daughter and I to ride and would very much like to hear and see your updates as they happen. Although I’ve got a lot more underbrush to deal with, my topography and composition is very similar to yours.
Where are you based? What kind of underbrush are you dealing with?
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I’m in Western NC, so I’m dealing with the same terrain really(and clay). The underbrush is incredibly varied, all the woods around me was logged not too long ago, so there’s just a bunch of scrub throughout.
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"schwim" wrote
I’m in Western NC, so I’m dealing with the same terrain really(and clay). The underbrush is incredibly varied, all the woods around me was logged not too long ago, so there’s just a bunch of scrub throughout.
Ah yeah I see, cutting through that underbrush is no fun!
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I’m all ready to do some serious trail work over the holiday this coming week:
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Am I the only one who annoys people at trail building events by swinging around a McLoud and yelling "[i:2lgohrbv]THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!![/i:2lgohrbv]"?
Just curious.
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"Fitch" wrote
Am I the only one who annoys people at trail building events by swinging around a McLoud and yelling "[i:2gwbyc52]THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!![/i:2gwbyc52]"?
Just curious.
Hahaha, nope.
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"Fitch" wrote
Am I the only one who annoys people at trail building events by swinging around a McLoud and yelling "[i:390iccam]THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!![/i:390iccam]"?
Just curious.
I’m going to be swinging a McLeod tomorrow! 😄
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What’s wrong with swinging to Hootie and the Blowfish? Just asking. 😄 Later,
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I spent a good few hours out at the drop loop I built today and it was just great to be in the woods! Some riders were trying to go around the drop but that will cause unwanted erosion so I added rocks to it to make it harder to go around.I also had to swing an axe and get rid of a tree before it separated someones shoulder on a tweaked landing.I cut a root out that had gotten loose in the corner in this first pic..
I also had to add some more dirt to the log crossing,I didn’t get to ride it after but it just looks like it will flow very nice
Another shot of the crossing.
From the log crossing to the drop
Here is the newly fortified drop ledge
The drop from below
I also put up a sign…
I plan to take a cutting of my strobe plant and plant it on the side of the trail near the beginning of the drop,it will do great there and look cool….whatchya know about those landscaped trails son?! 😆
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Very cool man! Looks awesome! You might want to consider building a bypass around it for those who don’t want to take the drop.
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Did you get to put those nice trail tools to use yet?
I went back out yesterday and someone had again moved my rocks and logs off the side to go around it.Since this trail is already and optional line off the main trail,It’s starting to really irritate me.This will eventually cause the right side of the landing to erode and make it dangerous for those who ride the drop.If you look at the sign pic,the main trail goes to the left.If you look at the pic looking up at the drop,that main trail is on the right of the large tree so it’s really not necessary for anyone to ride it if they can’t.
When I finish the 24" wide ladder bridge there,there will not be enough room to go around anyway so I would like to get people used to either riding it or not.I’s a 1 foot drop,learn to ride it!!! 😆
Anyway…things that won’t be an issue for you on your trail,haha.
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"GALAXY" wrote
Did you get to put those nice trail tools to use yet?
I went back out yesterday and someone had again moved my rocks and logs off the side to go around it.Since this trail is already and optional line off the main trail,It’s starting to really irritate me.This will eventually cause the right side of the landing to erode and make it dangerous for those who ride the drop.If you look at the sign pic,the main trail goes to the left.If you look at the pic looking up at the drop,that main trail is on the right of the large tree so it’s really not necessary for anyone to ride it if they can’t.
When I finish the 24" wide ladder bridge there,there will not be enough room to go around anyway so I would like to get people used to either riding it or not.I’s a 1 foot drop,learn to ride it!!! 😆
Anyway…things that won’t be an issue for you on your trail,haha.
Wow, some people…. That kinda irks me off.
Yeah, I’ve gotten to put my tools to some serious use! Will take pictures at the end of the weekend and post. I’ve put in about 12-14 hours of work in on the trail in the last two days… it’s coming along slowly but steadily! I’ve also scouted out a great spot to build a drop. Planning on a 3-4 footer.
I can’t wait until it’s done! It’ll probably be many more months until it is even close to finished.
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3-4 footer!!!! Yeah!! Glad to hear it’s coming along man,that rake/hoe/tamper thing looks very useful,never seen one of those.Can’t wait to see pics man,sounds like you’ve done quite a lot over the last couple days.Do you have any help while you’re working? I usually don’t and I kind of prefer it that way,very peaceful.If I had help and another enthusiastic mind though that would help get things done quicker.
I put up an earth ledge next to the drop where people keep riding around it last night.I cleared off the area,put big rocks down in a line and filled it in with dirt.Then I re-covered it in leaves and put another big rock on top of it.I expect to have to rebuild it tomorrow but it’ll at least be some work for someone to move the rocks and there will still be enough dirt to make it almost as high as the drop itself,making it somewhat useless to have moved anything.They seriously underestimate my determination. 😎
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"GALAXY" wrote
3-4 footer!!!! Yeah!! Glad to hear it’s coming along man,that rake/hoe/tamper thing looks very useful,never seen one of those.Can’t wait to see pics man,sounds like you’ve done quite a lot over the last couple days.Do you have any help while you’re working? I usually don’t and I kind of prefer it that way,very peaceful.If I had help and another enthusiastic mind though that would help get things done quicker.
I put up an earth ledge next to the drop where people keep riding around it last night.I cleared off the area,put big rocks down in a line and filled it in with dirt.Then I re-covered it in leaves and put another big rock on top of it.I expect to have to rebuild it tomorrow but it’ll at least be some work for someone to move the rocks and there will still be enough dirt to make it almost as high as the drop itself,making it somewhat useless to have moved anything.They seriously underestimate my determination. 😎
Last time I had one of my brother-in-laws helping me, but this past week it was just me and the dog! I enjoyed the peace and quiet for a while, but eventually I just wish I had more people so it’d go faster, lol!!
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I spent about 15-16 hours building trail over the Thanksgiving holiday. Much of my time was spent digging in the actual tread of the trail and building a couple of interesting features, including a small berm. Check it out:
Duke, my trail building partner:
Small berm. This is one of the tightest corners in the trail, and the berm really only functions to keep your front wheel in the corner:
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Wow,you got a lot done!! That looks like it will be a very fun little trail and it will be cool to see it evolve in pictures.The ground looks like fun to work with,doesn’t look very easy to move,looks pretty hard packed but will make for great log crossings.
I went out yesterday to check on my earth ledge and it was still intact much to my surprise! I finished the left side as well last night.Here is the one from Thanksgiving that was still there..
Starting of the left side "foundation"..
Finished view from the top side..
I had fun mining rocks for this ledge,pretty cool that they were available everywhere.
Keep up the good work man!!!
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@Galaxy, thanks man! Looks like your drop is coming along well too and is well-fortified!!
Here are some photos of more trail corridor that I cut. This is on section 2, it’s going to go through some pretty sweet, rocky areas:
At this point, the trail will fork. One section will head down to the left, around a tree, and through a massive natural rock garden. The other section will head up to the right and will swing down to where I’m going to build a 3-4 foot drop in. There’s already a natural drop-off below a tree, I just need to build it up some! Brush is getting thicker ever yard, it’s going to be a lot more work…
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Where did you get the dirt for the berms? Did you have to haul it very far?
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"trek7k" wrote
Where did you get the dirt for the berms? Did you have to haul it very far?
Good question. I was going to take a pic but I guess I didn’t, but my inlaws have a big pile of unused dirt about 40-50 yards from the beginning of the trail. I wheelbarrowed it in by hand about 100 yards total from pile to turn. Took about 8-10 trips for this one berm, over an hours worth of work total for this one small berm. Yeah, its kind of depressing when I think about it.
It’s pretty good dirt, too: lots of clay, lots of rock, packs in pretty quickly. Although at the time of this photo the berm was really loose, but I bet all of the rain we’re getting today will pack it in beautifully!
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That’s awesome! Can’t wait to see the drop!
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I just posted this on another thread, but I wanted to mention that there is some good information on trail building out there:
IMBA has a great book (which I really need to buy a copy of):
http://www.imba.com/catalog/book-trail-solutionsAlso, there was a great series started here on the blog a few years ago on trail building, although sadly it was not finished:
http://www.singletracks.com/blog/trail- … -not-hard/
http://www.singletracks.com/blog/trail- … ne-part-i/
http://www.singletracks.com/blog/trail- … ne-part-2/
http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-tr … lding-101/
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thanks very much for posting the links to the partial blog tutorial. Very nice reading.
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"schwim" wrote
thanks very much for posting the links to the partial blog tutorial. Very nice reading.
Yeah, it’s great stuff, I’d love for him to finish it some day.
Also, i took some helmet cam footage of what I’ve finished of the trail so far:
[flash=640,360:d7cbzqrq]http://www.youtube.com/v/aE3TKN3AmPc[/flash:d7cbzqrq]
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Coming along nicely Greg. Must feel good to taking a spin around the place after all the work you’ve put in.
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"slipfinger" wrote
Coming along nicely Greg. Must feel good to taking a spin around the place after all the work you’ve put in.
On the other hand I bet everytime you ride the track you find something you would change or add!Yeah, it’s interesting how you think the trail will flow one way when you first look at it and then when you put wheels to dirt the flow is totally different. There are a several trees that I need to take out that will open the flow up a good bit in some spots.
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Nice looking trail so far, Greg!
I like the duck down area in the unfinished part; do you plan on keeping it?
And right after the finished part ends, is that the beginning of a banked turn? 😃
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Thanks man! Right now I’m planning on keeping it as you’re not moving very fast coming from either direction. As for that one turn, it is off camber as crap right now. Not sure what I’m going to do with it yet. As it is, it is super challenging. Making it a bank would be nice, but it would take a ton of effort to build. I could modify it so it doesn’t drop down the hill as far and then it wouldn’t be nearly as off camber and difficult, but difficulty is part of the point on this trail…
What do you think?
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I would still drop it down the hill as far as you can go. More trail is always more better
It looks like the banked turn would be at the bottom of the hill. If it’s not at the bottom of a hill, ignore the rest of this post 😆
Drainage would probably be an issue if you add a bank (or is it a berm?)
No bank/berm would increase the difficulty, but reduce your speed in that section.
Adding the bank/berm would make the turn "easier" but I think you would only miss out on taking an off-camber corner and "practice" pedaling up a hill, right? Could you add another off-camber section somewhere else? No comment getting more "practice" pedaling up a hill, LOL!If you can solve the drainage issue and it’s not too much work, I would add the berm. To add some self-imposed difficulty, you can see how far you can get up the next hill before you have to pedal. You’ll learn how to take corners more efficiently/fast and get a decent rush of speed.
However, I would definitely put adding the berm on the not-so-important part of your Things To Do list regarding the trail. You won’t need it to make it ride-able, the berm would just add a different set of skills to work on.
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Nice video,you have more trail done than I thought,great work!!!
I know I’d keep it going down the hill,haha.
I’ve done a bit of work out at the trail here in the last week,I put up a board skinny…
It has always been a thought that something needed to go across there so I went and got a board and put it up,rides pretty nicely too!
That drop had not gotten messed with for a while but someone kicked the rock on the one side down the hill the other day and it STILL looked like that person is trying to ride the one inch lower way to the right of the board. Are you kidding me? 😏 So,I put the rock back,added a second rock,and packed them in clay that I dug away from the lip of the drop so there is no way to ride it without hucking off the ledge anymore. 😃 I went out today and someone stole the caution sign I had just leaning up near the drop.I’ll paint a sign tomorrow and put it in the tree Wednesday when I head out there.Here it is now,and I’ll groom it some more Wednesday.
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"Jared13" wrote
I would still drop it down the hill as far as you can go. More trail is always more better
It looks like the banked turn would be at the bottom of the hill. If it’s not at the bottom of a hill, ignore the rest of this post 😆
Drainage would probably be an issue if you add a bank (or is it a berm?)
No bank/berm would increase the difficulty, but reduce your speed in that section.
Adding the bank/berm would make the turn "easier" but I think you would only miss out on taking an off-camber corner and "practice" pedaling up a hill, right? Could you add another off-camber section somewhere else? No comment getting more "practice" pedaling up a hill, LOL!If you can solve the drainage issue and it’s not too much work, I would add the berm. To add some self-imposed difficulty, you can see how far you can get up the next hill before you have to pedal. You’ll learn how to take corners more efficiently/fast and get a decent rush of speed.
However, I would definitely put adding the berm on the not-so-important part of your Things To Do list regarding the trail. You won’t need it to make it ride-able, the berm would just add a different set of skills to work on.
Adding a dirt berm would create drainage issues like you said so I’ve been contemplating addin a small wooden wall ride. But like I said, that’s definitely a ton of work….probably even more than a dirt berm!
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"GALAXY" wrote
Nice video,you have more trail done than I thought,great work!!!
I know I’d keep it going down the hill,haha.
I’ve done a bit of work out at the trail here in the last week,I put up a board skinny…
It has always been a thought that something needed to go across there so I went and got a board and put it up,rides pretty nicely too!
That drop had not gotten messed with for a while but someone kicked the rock on the one side down the hill the other day and it STILL looked like that person is trying to ride the one inch lower way to the right of the board. Are you kidding me? 😏 So,I put the rock back,added a second rock,and packed them in clay that I dug away from the lip of the drop so there is no way to ride it without hucking off the ledge anymore. 😃 I went out today and someone stole the caution sign I had just leaning up near the drop.I’ll paint a sign tomorrow and put it in the tree Wednesday when I head out there.Here it is now,and I’ll groom it some more Wednesday.
Wow man that’s looking great! Skinny looks like lots of fun
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Congrats on building your own place. I’ve been working on trails buy my house for 3 years now and continue to find new terrain I never expected. Got photos on alltrails/woodway trails. Creating is almost more fun than riding!?!
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Just a few pics of section 1 of my build, they are not in order but oh well you get the idea. Please bear in mind that I am working alone so my house smells like Icy Hot and progress is slow (ain’t as young anymore) 😆 any suggestions would be great!! I’m going to spread the rock garden out I just wanted to get them in a central location and I hav’nt gotten to the overgrown sections yet but notice the hill? sucks going up but fun on the decent. Hope you enjoy the pics as much as I am enjoying the build.
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DAMNITT!! sorry I’m computer stoopid let me try again w/ the pics
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I think I got it:[img][IMG]http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa452/1sikkHucker/IMAG0044.jpg[/img]
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Very nice dude! I’m liking the looks of that rock garden!
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"mtbgreg1" wrote
Very nice dude! I’m liking the looks of that rock garden!
Thanks man that means a lot considering I have NO F-N’ CLUE what the hell I’m doing, on top of the hill I plan on adding some either roll overs or jumps. I’d like to make the decent of that hill a drop off but if I do that I can’t fig out how to get up it. Maybe another route? Oh before I forget thanks for your knowledge on how to post pics/vid ’cause I had no clue there either…like I said I’m computer stoopid
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"1sikkHucker" wrote
Oh before I forget thanks for your knowledge on how to post pics/vid ’cause I had no clue there either…like I said I’m computer stoopid
No problem, glad I could help you out with that little tutorial!!
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Here are a slew of photos of me riding on my personal project. Thanks to my sister in law, Sydnah, for the photos:
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Hey, that last photo is pretty sweet!
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Looks good Greg, must be nice to have your own trail that you designed in your back yard (in-laws backyard). I hope the you spend sometime visiting when you’re over! 😆
If it was me I’d spend all my time hiding from my monster in-laws, just saying!!!!
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I think I’m all but done w/ the rock garden just waiting for it to rain to pack down the back fill then go back and pack any loose rock…safety 1st 😆
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"slipfinger" wrote
Looks good Greg, must be nice to have your own trail that you designed in your back yard (in-laws backyard). I hope the you spend sometime visiting when you’re over! 😆
If it was me I’d spend all my time hiding from my monster in-laws, just saying!!!!
Haha yeah, I figure there’s usually plenty of time to do both!
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Looks very good guys. youve motivated me to pick up an ax and do some work on the dirtbike trails behind my appartment complex.
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New digging on the previously-blazed trail:
Newly cut corridor. Made it down to the river finally!
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Wow guys those self built trails look awesome. Great job!
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Hey Greg, how is the new trail looking these days?
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"MTBbasher" wrote
Hey Greg, how is the new trail looking these days?
Meh I haven’t ridden it recently. Have been way too busy with school to spend much free time at the inlaws… One day if I ever own my own piece of land, ill probably revisit the idea of building a backyard trail. However, right now it just seems like too much work and not enough gain. The place we’re renting currently has WAY more forest than my inlaws, but idk how long we will live here so investing the time in building a trail seems pretty futile. When I buy a piece of land one day that might change, though.
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