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Manitou Ships 2011 Circus DJ Forks

Monday, December 6th, 2010

We just got a press release from the folks at Manitou with news about the Circus DJ forks. The 2011 models have arrived and feature a new casting and crown design while the price has been reduced on the Comp model ($339 MSRP). At the end of the press release we found this little interesting tidbit for riders who “deliver the proper gnar”:

Manitou is a big supporter of everything Dirt-Jump, Slope-style, Park, Street and Pump and we’re considering all sponsorship opportunities for 2011. HBG produces a number a dirt jump products and a new PUNCH dirt jump wheel program is set to release at Sea Otter in April of 2011. If you work in a shop shredding local trails and/or enter DJ comps we’d like to hear from you. Send your resume and contact info to us and we’ll get back to you.

Hayes Bicycle Group
Attn: 2011 Sponsorship/Pro Deal
5800 West Donges Bay Rd
Mequon, WI. 53209

Makes me wanna run off and join the Circus…

More details at manitoumtb.com.

2010 Manitou Circus Comp DJ Fork Review

Wednesday, March 31st, 2010

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Here is a suspension fork that’s so much fun that the folks at Manitou even sent it out with a clown nose!  Manitou has managed to integrate fun as well as technology into a new DJ (dirt jump) fork called the Circus. Richard Travis from Manitou told me part of the fun was to find an artist from outside the bike industry to put a unique and fresh spin on things. As Richard put it “(We wanted to) capture something different and non-bike like, something challenging but weird enough to remind you that the freaks are out there.” Very cool. The artist opted to use almost Python-esque graphics of clowns and other related paraphernalia which I was more than happy to adorn my fork with.

On the technical side of things, Manitou has two versions: the Circus Comp which I am reviewing and the more advanced Circus Expert. The Comp version that I received features 32mm 4130 chromoly stanchions that look like they can take a beating; and not just any kind of beating, but a full on gang brawl. The chromoly ensures this fork will last a long time, withstanding hundreds of hits and jumps. To keep the internals from bashing themselves to bits, Manitou added a unique dual bottom out bumper arrangement, an extra measure of protection for coming off big jumps and going into full compression.

The Circus also has a new casting for its lowers which increases strength, stiffness, and durability. Manitou went and tweaked their new Absolute+ damper and tuned it specifically for jumping, increasing the high-speed compression dampening a touch. You can jump with the Circus in lockout all day long without damaging the internals thanks to its high-speed shim stack (you probably wouldn’t want to do this, but for lazy folks it’s possible).

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I had the pleasure of meeting up with Jon Wells, one of the shredders who did some of the initial testing on the Circus (other riders like Dustin Greenall, Steve Romaniuk, and Garett Buehler rock the Circus DJ as well).  Jon has put in some time on this fork and gave me a few pointers on setting it up. With his suggestions in mind and after a few hours riding the fork myself, I managed to get my Circus dialed in super fine.

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NO this is not me but a photo taken of Dustin Greenall doing a superseat (credit to Bryce Piwek)

Setting up the Circus Comp was rather easy. It took about half an hour to get the steering tube measured, cut, and star nut installed. It took another 15 minutes to get the fork on the bike and the front brake attached. Make sure you follow all instructions and torque settings for optimal results.

The Comp is a coil spring pre-load unit which does not require air to set. I found a few clicks (clockwise) was enough to get the right amount of sag (I personally use very little with this shock). The adjustment on the pre-load along with the spring that is supplied is good enough for riders up to about 220lb. During the winter months when I’m not riding every day my weight tends to migrate to nearly 200lbs and this fork works well for me.

After setting up the pre-load, I like to work on setting the compression (ABS+) knob. I typically turn mine in all the way to lockout then back it off about 3 clicks. In terms of rebound I prefer to set things right smack in the middle. I find this combination of compression and rebound settings works best, giving me a fork that has just enough give in it to take the sting out of almost anything while still giving me full feedback from the course.

I really loved the quick response of the Circus, especially running around the pump track. I found the fork was always working for me rather than trying to play catch up as I cycled the fork up and down over the track. If you take a peek at the video below, paying close attention to the fork as it’s rolling over the pump track, you can see that it tracks perfectly without bouncing. This is a great trait for any fork to have: the fork is holding your mass up while controlling and isolating the movement of the bike. In the case of poor tracking you would see unwanted movement which often feels as if the front end goes mushy.

For a fork that is under $400, the Circus Comp is tough to beat. The fork works perfectly, it tracks well on the pump track and off the jumps, and I have to say it puts a big smile on my face. If you’re planning on hitting the local jump park frequently I would recommend you give this fork a close look. As an added bonus you get some really fresh graphics to make the fork uniquely your own. And don’t forget your clown nose!

Circus Expert Specs
Weight: 4.7lbs/2133grams
Travel: 80, 100mm & 130mm
Legs: 32mm Stanchions straight wall 7050 Aluminum
Spring: Firm (extra firm available in Aftermarket) w/Air preload
Damper: ABS+, lockout & rebound adjust
Hub/ Axle: 20mm Hex Lock
Features: Double bottom out bumpers, 4 decal sheets and clown nose
Cost:US MSRP $449

Circus Comp Specs
Weight: 5.3lbs/2406grams
Travel: 80 & 100mm
Chassis: 32mm Stanchions straight wall 4130 Chrome Moly
Spring: Firm (extra firm available in Aftermarket) w/ mechanical preload
Damper: ABS+ , lockout & rebound adjust
Hub/ Axle: 20mm Hex Lock
Features: Double bottom out bumpers, 4 decal sheets and clown nose
Cost:US MSRP $399

Straight 1-1/8″ steer, 6 inch post mounts

I like to thank the folks at Manitou for providing the Circus DJ Comp for review.

Manitou Rethought, Re-engineered, Re-energized!

Thursday, February 4th, 2010

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As a mountain biker for many years, I’ve seen dozens of riders and companies come and go. One company I have always admired is Manitou but lately (the past few years) I feel like they haven’t been seen around much. Besides sightings of the Dorado (more on that later), the R7 on some winning XC bikes, and mentions of the Minute forks, the company seems to have been keeping a low profile. Well, I had the great opportunity to speak with one of the many people who are pushing Manitou back into the spotlight with an all new, shiny line up. Richard, or Rich for those who know him, has a passion for anything with two wheels and a frame. Before his present position at Manitou he was the product manager during the development of the Stroker line of brakes at Hayes.

Richard has moved on to the Manitou division and is presently building momentum with Manitou’s strengths while finding weaknesses and either discarding them or finding out what the issues are and fixing them. Having the right people is all part and parcel of his vision: “It’s great having the right people working with you.”

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I spoke with Richard on the phone and he had this to say:

We’ve spent the last 2 years sorting through Manitou technologies, creating a new, more reliable brand of suspension. While understanding the history surrounding Manitou suspension we’ve aligned ourselves with our past but lean forward with a new level of suspension expertise.

That past for Manitou includes a very interesting history and Richard was able to fill me in on some of the highlights. Manitou’s history includes several important dates in the development of suspension technology that we all enjoy today so here’s a brief summary of Manitou’s contribution to suspension design.

History

Manitou started in 1985 with Doug Bradbury and Answer Products where many industry firsts occurred and standards were set. For example, the 1.5 steerer, post mount, TPC (Twin Piston Chamber), and even the edgy/bold graphics that paralleled Johnny T and Palmer’s style all had beginnings at Manitou.

Since the purchase in 2007, HBG (Hayes Brake Group) has invested heavily into Manitou owning and operating our very own suspension factory and we’ve hired the best suspension experts on island. We’ve also hired specialists from outside the industry (Showa and Honda) and adapted a new global quality system to track our products from factory to field. This suspension team has only been together for 2 years fixing all the inherited problems, throwing out the bad technology and improving upon the good. They also came out with ABS+, MILO, Dorado Pro and host of new forks for MY (model year) 11. I’m really proud to be part of this suspension group.

I was personally really glad to hear this from Richard. There’s always something positive that comes from taking inventory of what you have and what you need while being honest about what is not working. It takes a lot for a company to say, “OK this is not working, Lets get it right.”

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While at Interbike, trek7k and I did get to see a few new Manitou products for MY10 and have heard some rumors of what to expect for MY11. Next year Manitou is preparing to come out with a bucket full of new items which really sound interesting. For one thing, Manitou will be releasing a female specific platform which, as far as I know, is a first! Think about it, specific dampening for women with their specific needs in mind. There will be two new forks in the line up as well: the Marvel 32mm fork for the XC rider and the Circus, a DJ fork that has been sorely needed for some time now.

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New for 2010 & 2011

New products and suspension platforms launching soon and for the MY11:

  • Absolute Plus, replacing the older Absolute damper.
  • MILO, Manitou integrated lock out, developed for the ABS+
  • QR15 Hex-lock
  • Marvel MRD & PRO 32mm XC race forks
  • Circus Dirt Jump and Slopestyle fork
  • Tower, 29er specific platforms
  • Female-specific platforms
  • Dorado MRD & Pro

One hallmark of a successful brand is consistency across product line designations (ex: pro, expert, etc.). Parent company HBG intends to incorporate their tiering system over the entire line up, ultimately making it easier for us to find the level of performance and price we’re looking for with a particular product.

  • MRD
  • PRO
  • Expert
  • Comp
  • Sport

These designators are common threads among mountain bikers and industry professionals. Our intent is to use this system to further delineate our price points and performance options. It’s a road map for HBG product groups.

Speaking of technology, the following is summary of what to expect from Manitou for the next little while. Going forward there will be three platforms for their front shocks and 4 types (two coil, two air) for the rear shocks.

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Damper Technology

TPC: Twin Piston Chamber: this is the umbrella technology Manitou has utilized since 1998. We think the TPC rivals any thing out there (based on) weight, cost, function.

Absolute +: race-proven damper with needle orifice LS and shim based HS, technology common among all motor sports racing applications. ABS+ comes on all forks offering our best damper technology on our most cost conscious forks.

TPC+: race-proven damper with big hit and gravity based technology, relies on energy dependent floating TPC+ pistons activated on big drops and hits. The TPC+ piston is a floating piston that is preloaded by a spring. In essence the system is dually Displacement and Speed Sensitive which makes it an “Energy dependent circuit” aka TPC+.

There’s a quiz later this week to see if the kids were paying attention. :)

Springs

MARS, TS, and ACT Air systems have been proven on the trail with reliability, tuning and specific applications. Our spring technologies have been refined, tuned, and proven more durable with a wider range of rider usage.

Rear Shocks

Four basic models have been established utilizing the new naming/designations to make rear shock easier to understand. All of the previous models and eye-to-eyes have been preserved and applications have not changed.

  • Coil (Metal Comp and Revox Expert & Pro)
  • Air (Radium Comp Expert & Pro and Swinger Expert & Pro)

So a couple of final questions

What is to be expected with the new aluminum version of the Dorado?

Same great internals, less cost, taste great..! But seriously it’s the same fork as the MRD Carbon just with aluminum legs, it tracks a little better than the carbon and has proven bombproof in our lab and field testing. Although a race fork like the MRD, this fork should be considered for all freeride applications.

What’s next after the Dorado?

Maybe a single crown Dorado in 160 – 170mm , I didn’t just say that, did I…?

After revamping the R7, Minute, Drake, ABS+, what can we expect with the newer forks?

They get lighter. Minutes improves on damper and spring technologies and Drake is replace by a Minute Expert.

TPC+ or Absolute+ (which is better for you) and why is Manitou going with these?

TPC+ is for bigger, longer travel forks and ABS+ can and will be tuned from 80mm XC to 160mm All Mountain forks.

So what is new from Manitou for the 2010 year that folks can buy right now?

For Calendar year 2010 you can buy: Dorado Pro 26 / 29′, 3 newCircus dirt jump and slopestyle forks, ABS+ upgrade kits, MILO lockouts, Marvel high end 32mm stanchion XC fork

Well folks, stay tuned for more from the folks at Manitou and the Hayes Group. There are some really great products that can be purchased now and in the very near future. Check out the blog for previous articles and keep looking for more info on the up-and-coming products from Manitou. We’ll keep you posted.

Cheers!






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