Pros: This bike is a tank it is super tough and with the four bearing option it is super stiff...The finish in the machine work is very nice great welds and attention to detail

Cons: The brake cable mounts could have been a bit beefier

Recommendation: An fantastic frameset for almost anyone. After riding a season with this bike and rebuilding it there was nearly nothing wrong with the bike. Super tough and a great performing bike it absorbs roots and rocks like they were not even there and with 5" inches of travel this bike can be built burly or lighter the bike that i am testing was built up with X-9 and DeoreXT with Fox Float RLC up front. It came in at 30.3lbs running Azonic outlaw rims. At its present configuration trail riding was great once the 25% sag was set in you could take it almost anywhere 5 foot drops are not an issue with this bike and it still can do single track quite well. Climbing on this bike can bob a bit so stay in the saddle and it limits that...Set the propedal to 3 for the heaver of us...Other than that i love this frame set.