TREK Session 88 Freeride ………… YES? OR NO?

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    • #75051

      Im looking to buy a bike that can take everything ….. that australia can offer .. i found this bike thought it looked cool .. can u guys give me ur opition on this bike …

      http://www.trekbikes.com/au/en/bikes/mo … ssion88fr/

      If u got any other suggestions . Would be appreated ( however u spell it )

      I would love a bike with full suspension ( descent ) . Stuff that will last . Im willing to spend up to $4000 . Im only 15 years old so it dosn’t have to be too heavy . just be able to get the job done .

    • #75052

      it looks pretty sweet to me

    • #75053

      Thanks for the feedback….. yeah i do alot of XC like mostly single track with small 1 – 2 metre drops and large rocks and roots but i still want to be able to take it on DH and FR > Just need a bike to do everything … Would you have any idea how much this bike would cost … I need to start saving 😀

    • #75054

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      Was also thinking about a heckler … but i dunno if i could afford it …. it getting a bit dear .. over 4 grand … thats crzy

    • #75055

      Dude,you gotta check out the Yeti ASR 7,I would buy this bike in heart beat if I were in your shoe’s.I was looking at Yeti’s before I bought my 2007 stumpjumper(long story why I went with the stumpjumper).
      It is basically a cross between there now defunct ASX(FR and DH) and there immensly popular 575(Trail,xc,and small amount’s of FR and DH).
      [url:1myjkxiz]http://www.yeticycles.com/#/ourrides/ASR_7/WHITE/[/url:1myjkxiz]

    • #75056

      The main guy i ride with has a yeti 575 he has spent probably $8000 + … he won’t tell me exact .. but it has tubless maxxis LUST and LUST rims … Fox Float on the front ( I think ) Fox rear shock … Gobi saddle … race face seat post … umm .. monkey bar ( handle bar ) …. Orange!!!! omg it’s a sweet ride .. he lets me ride it sometimes … im scared when i ride . I would go with a 575 . but yeah im looking 3 – 4 grand …. descent fork rear suspension . Juicy 7’s … I only weight like 50kg’s . So i am also thinking about getting a heavy XC bike … that can take the punishment ….

      At this time . I ride an Apollo 1990’s ( not quite sure egzaxtly of the date ) it’s got no suspension at all …and i keep up with the 575 on it .. so yeah i majorly need a upgrade … this thing i ride has v brakes . but is quite light only like 8 – 9 kilo ‘s

    • #75057

      THE BEAST:

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    • #75058
      Just need a bike to do everything

      Yeah,I know it’s little expensive even when your planning on spending $4000 anyway’s.I seriously think this is the latest,greatest,do all bike there is on the planet though.Your only 15 year’s old,another grand or so in today’s term’s for a mountain bike only make’s you look a whole lot smarter and you would have a bike that WILL DO EVERYTHING,including things I cant mention.That’s no a joke either.I understand though if it too expensive,I just couldnt go without mentioning this bike as to your query for a DO ALL BIKE.It’s a shame it’s got to be sooo expensive,but I beleive this bike to be your best option IF YOU HAD THE MONEY.The thing make’s me drool.hahahahahaha.

      and i keep up with the 575 on it

      You dont know how proud I am of you,hahahahahaha.

    • #75059

      I think you are going to set a record with the biggest upgrade from 1st to 2nd bike 😆

    • #75060

      cjm

      As far as the Session 88 is concerned be aware that both the Remedy and it predecessor the Liquid had a problem of blowing the pivots in the linkage in rather short order. Outside of that of that, these bikes have a wonderful reputation. I own Liquid and from the time a blew the main pivot until until I got my Transition Preston, I spent many back country days sorely missing that bike. I know a guy that runs a touring company and was quite happy with the Remedys he had until the main pivots went. Dave Weigle’s SplitPivot, ABP as Trek has branded it, has had a lot of buzz in the bike geek community. It’s a simple design that seemingly should have the benifits of a classic single pivot axle path with advantages of Specialized’s FSR. Personally I am going to wait for real riders to a get a year or two with SplitPivot before I consider dumping my cash into it.

      I don’t believe in the go anywhere do anything bike. If you are going to ride a lot of DH/FR than the 6inch AM bikes that are so popular tend to self destruct beneath you. They preform as well or better than many DH bikes for downhilling until they fall apart. If you get something more durable there is a weight problem. Because you started talking about a Session 88 I am going to assume that you are looking more for Freeride bike that is rather pedalable.

      Since I am a Transition whore, I would first suggest the Transition DirtBag. Transitions have a bad reputation for coming with QA problems. Most of them are just finishing problems, that a quality bike tech finds on every brand of frame. Whatever problems arise Transition has a reputation of being quick to remedy the issue. The Dirtbag is workhorse of a frame. It pedals quite well for it a bike of it’s class and it will take whatever beating you can throw at it. You can build it really light around 37lbs if your wallet will let you. The average build will still come in right around 40lbs. The 170 mm of travel is a bit short for DH, but you are young and still flexable, you can take it. If the Dirtbag is a bit to much bike for your needs, go for the Bottle Rocket. It can take the about the same pounding at a lighter are weight with a more flickable design. The frames price out around $1200 USD. TBCs get rather costy if you buy them complete. They don’t have any "OEM" parts on their bikes, so every component is the same as if you order it separately. Do yourself a favor, price the components separately. Right now is a killer time to buy components.

      If you don’t want the hassle of buying and building a bike. I have two selections for you. The Santa Cruz Bullet and the Kona Stinky. Both are bikes that stay on trails for years. The Stinky is a bit more competent DH rig while the Bullet pedals a tad better. Even with all the bells and whistles the two frames have added of the last few years, the core designs are still painfully simple and thoroughly trail tested. Both come in at about 180mm of travel. Overall I would give the Bullet the nod. Change the shock and fork to something a little more pedal friendly and a Bullet can quickly go from DH/FR bike to a solid back country pedaler. Visit there websites for pricing (http://www.santacruzbikes.com and http://www.konaworld.com)

    • #75061

      Wow thats a big post … thanks very helpful….

      The winner overall that ive been looking for days .This bike is the bike that stands out for me and i think is the best value for me:

      Giant Trance X2 2009 $ 2700 Au …. Very nice in my opition

      http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bik … 334/32058/

    • #75062

      It had the new shimano kit on it …. I read a recent review . All good .. I love the front shock .. it has lock out 😀 . Gobi saddle . Maxxis tire … YUM… I just need to rob a bank now

    • #75063

      cjm

      I just want to point to a few things.

      First the fork on the bike comes with a 15mm axle. This a relatively new thing on the market. Like anything new to the MTB world, market forces will have quick effect on its viability as product. So, in two years every thing on 26 and 29 inch wheels may be running front 15mm axles. However, in that same two years you may end up buying a new fork, because you have blown your hub and no one makes 15mm hubs any more. Most likely, you will end up paying more for 15mm hub, than you would for the same hub in a traditional QR or 20mm axle. Also, if you have to replace the fork or the lowers, you may end up needing a new hub to go along. If you plan to ride the bike for two three years then get a whole new sled, then I wouldn’t worry. But, if your plan is to keep this bike for more than three years it may be something that effects your decision.

      Next you have to ask yourself if you are really doing two meter drops. If so the wheelset and suspension on that bike won’t hold up. Regardless of what you weigh now, you’ll weigh enough to crush that wheelset if you land at an angle after two meters of freefall. Further, I would be surprised if the shock, fork, wheelset or frame is warrantied for drops of two feet, much less two meters. If you even planning on regularly cracking one meter in drops, you need consider something more beefy. If you break out the tape measure on the drops that most riders do, they rarely break one meter and most often struggle to exceed 60cm.

    • #75064

      thanks yeah .. Ill mostly be using for XC …. Occansional DH … Australia isn’t heaps big into mountain biking yet so there are not many trails with drops biggger than 2 meters … and im fairly new to the sport and would think twice before attempting because of the many accidents i have had already on my BEAST of a bike . The main reason i am upgrading is the saftey issue .. i can’t stand going home every time ive been for a ride .. and having to patch myself up and miss out on a few days of riding . I will use the giant trance for XC and Maybee the odd comp . But im just a cassual weekend rider nothing more serious than that . Things may change in the future and that would prompt me to upgrade but yeah i just need a bike that can do most things and is value for money in my eyes the trance is every bit of that .

      Mitch

    • #75065
      "Mitchstar" wrote

      Wow thats a big post … thanks very helpful….

      The winner overall that ive been looking for days .This bike is the bike that stands out for me and i think is the best value for me:

      Giant Trance X2 2009 $ 2700 Au …. Very nice in my opition

      http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bik … 334/32058/

      I think that you will happy with your bike should be this on. From what you said earlier about the type of riding in Aussie land, this will all that you will need and then some.

      Nice hearing from someone outside the U.S. Gives everyone a broader perspective on how widespread MTB is and has the potential to become.

    • #75066

      I’ll say one other thing. If you have a bike that you actually enjoy riding on, then you will become more of an avid rider.

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