“on your left” is now dangerous

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    • #585863

      Hmmmm, interesting, tragic, and sad. Also somewhat comical that the men involved are older “gentlemen”  well beyond the hot-headed years of their youth.

      FWIW I always stop for hikers (technical sections of trail or not) and have always been greeted with smiles.

    • #585871

      That story has to make us wonder what might have been the outcome had the cyclist been licensed to conceal/carry. Think carefully about this. Every day, Chicago has knifings and shootings side by side.       With the current state of the Onion, narcissism is a required subject.

      Now, with the case in the first post, how many people have the discovery file in hand to study? Over on MTBR, there are many armchair judges, juries and executioners that are spouting off without the kind of due process necessary to opine, so I for one shall refrain and let law enforcement and the courts have their opportunity to complete their respective duties.

      All in all, this type of story does make some of us ponder the “what if”.

    • #585875

      That story has to make us wonder what might have been the outcome had the cyclist been licensed to conceal/carry. Think carefully about this.

      Interesting. And “what if” the other hikers also had licenses to conceal and carry? Then we’d have a real-life John Wick 4……or Keystone Cops.

      Either scenario would be sub-optimal.

      It will be interesting to hear more about this forest melee.

    • #585885

      Robert Dobbs

      Interesting. And “what if” the other hikers also had licenses to conceal and carry? Then we’d have a real-life John Wick 4……or Keystone Cops.

      Either scenario would be sub-optimal.

      It will be interesting to hear more about this forest melee.

      Not one of the possible scenarios can be a plus for our community. There are a number of folks that do conceal/carry regardless of knife or firearm… Chicago leads the pack on the streets in both departments, sadly… Now this crap moves to trails and it might get worse long before it gets better.

      Disappointing, indeed!

      As I stated in my previous post, will keep watch on the outcome of this situation and have no opinion until all facts are disclosed. Will we see the truth in this matter, not likely since there are two people that might not be honorable.

       

    • #585909

      From the article though, it sounds like the cyclist did not yield to the hikers because they needed to “trying to negotiate an area that had exposed tree roots and was clipped into his bike.”

      Always be the bigger person and be prepared to yield right of way, that keeps people happy and trails open.  Oh and from getting stabbed and/or shot 😀

      • #587720

        Agreed the.bler. I don’t know how many times I pull over for mtbers coming downhill, and they don’t say thank you when I actually have the right of way going uphill. I don’t want to ruin their fun so I pull over. They should at least acknowledge my courtesy, which is above and beyond the normal trail courtesy, with the common courtesy of a thank you. We need to do better as a biking community.

    • #587723

      I just about always say thanks when going downhill, and someone pulls over going up.

    • #632311

      Say, does anyone know the outcome of this mountain biker vs hiker brawl from March 2021?

      I cannot seem to find any recent/relevant updates on Google and the Bellingham, Wash court site doesn’t seem to have any record of it.

      Hoping we have some Bellingham, WA area locals on this list who can provide updates.

    • #632370

      There had been mentions in a thread on the topic over on MTBR. Dunno where it stands at this point.

    • #633665

      Why is it so difficult for people just to have a minor disagreement today without someone getting hurt? There are more and more people on the planet every day. We need to get used to human encounters and work out reasonable conclusions when disagreements arise. It was not too long ago when I saw and experienced many disagreements between people. They all did not end peacefully but, most of them ended with a handshake or a hug and in some cases a budding friendship.  At the very least, everyone walked away without injury.

    • #633671

      Wouldn’t it be nice if folks could just come down to earth?

    • #639338

      Grumpy Old Men, right! Unfortunate situation and it is unclear what really happened. Seems like the MTBer should have been off his bike walking around. Generally whether riding in the Midwest or out west my experience has been most people are considerate, biker or hiker. Yield when you are supposed to and thank those who yield to you even if you have the right of way. Countless times hikers have yielded for me before I had time slow or adjust to go around them. Those that mess up the rules generally don’t know or understand, let’s be gracious, or did not have time so I responded for both our sakes. Respect and courtesy.

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