I think im gonna go with the specialized, it was a solid bike and the guys at the shop seemed to know what i was talking about, the cannondale dealer isnt there anymore, went to a dept. store to talk to someone about the treks and fishers they carried, forget that, and the giant dealer tried to pass off an 08 for a 09 (and charge me full price), i hate to base what i think of the bike on the service where i got it but those guys at the specialized dealer had it togther, well thanks for your help i think that bike will really work out well for her, and if she does take a liking to it we can start putting money twards upgrading the conponents and eventually the entire bike. thanks again for your help