DUDE! slow down, i just found a brand new Specialized P1, chromly frame, super short chain stays, and sweet components, it’s a 2011, I believe, and it’s also my first DJ! I love it. if the price is right, go for the wingman, I know a guy who rode one, and he loved it, I was actually considering getting one, but changed my mind, because I got a good deal on the s-works bike. I saw that they were going for $500! Here’s a review on the wing man:http://jerryhazard.us/flight-crew-reviews/the-airborne-wingman-experience/