April 3, 2018 at 6:34 pm #237895
looking for my first full suspension and have the following two bikes to choose from locally. The trek is a 2017, Fuel Ex8 27.5” leftover, the Scott is a 2018 74027.5+. They are both sale priced the same so that isn’t a deciding factor, nut they are at different LBS. I ride mainly single track on mild to medium difficulty trails. I have a Farley 9.6 that I am keeping but the bumps are killing my wrists and shoulders so looking for one that has a great suspension and a more upright riding position. I don’t really understand components that well as far 5o which are better, I think both bikes are pretty good. The 18 Scott is redesigned with similar shocks and forks as the 17 Trek. Scott has a few more options with the remote lockout but after that I am lookin* for advice on pros/cons on one vs the other. I am 6’0 even so planning on the large in either one. Thanks
April 3, 2018 at 10:01 pm #237897
I’ve demoed both of those bikes and honestly, they are both great. Both bikes work so well that you forget about the bike while you are riding and just focus on the trail. The Scott has better components and is more “Enduro” oriented, whereas the Trek is more “Trail” oriented. If it was me, I’d probably go with the Scott just for the value factor, and I like long, chunky decents. Maybe the geometry of the Trek will suit your riding better on mellow trails, or maybe the Scott will encourage you to get more aggressive and hit some gnarlier trails. You can’t go wrong either way.
April 4, 2018 at 7:57 am #237903
Thanks, when you say one is more trail oriented and One is more enduro what do you mean? I’ve seen bikes classified as trail or cross country as well what’s the difference
April 4, 2018 at 12:24 pm #237949
April 4, 2018 at 12:24 pm #237950
What Rhut is saying is the Scott has a geometry better suited for downhill, technical riding. Not to say the the Fuel is a slouch on the decents, but the Fuel is perhaps more balanced for what your needs are? It really depends on what your local trails are like and what type of riding you’re looking for. The Scott will deliver a better/more compliant ride on the downhills. The Trek is probably a better climber. If you had rooty, rocky, technical trails, you might like the 27.5+ wheels on the Scott. If you have more fast, flowy trails the Trek might be better. I think you’d be happy with either bike but hopefully some of those points help sway your decision.
April 4, 2018 at 12:30 pm #237952
It looks like you are in the $3K range! you may want to check out Chain reaction (out of Dublin, Ireland) Great prices and you can get more for your money. I picked up an XT level Cube Stereo, 160mm Fox travel F/R for $2K last year. I love the bike and very glad I went Enduro geometry. here is a killer bike for the same price range http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/cube-stereo-140-c-62-27-5-sl-suspension-bike-2017/rp-prod154568
Just so you know Chain Reaction has the best customer service. When you order a bike it comes in around 2 days. it is set up ready to ride, you just have to obviously unpack and put together the handlebar and put wheels on. Mine felt a little weird on the brakes so I pinged them and they told me just take it to a LBS and send them the bill. they understand that folks live all over the world that order from them so they take care of you.
FYI… to answer your question, Trail to Enduro to Downhill is a change in geometry to have the front wheel stick out further and a change in wheelbase so that as you travel more aggressive (steeper) hills the fork is hitting relatively perpendicular to the ground and it allows the bike to soak up the bumps better so you have more control on the hills. You can probably look up the difference right here on singletracks.
Last, if you are choosing between the Trek or Scott, I would take the Scott.
April 4, 2018 at 1:03 pm #237962
Both are 27.5+ wheels. The trails are twisty and rooty with mild climbing and descents, I am in the Midwest.
April 4, 2018 at 3:59 pm #237980
I had a Trek Fuel Ex 8 29″ wheels bike; I said HAD. It broke too often , so I bought a fatbike for a back up and ended up loving the fatbike more. I sold the Trek and the fatbike is a tank and hasn’t broke. I have only needed adjustments that are free where I bought the bike. No down times with the bike in the shop for a week. That was common with the Trek.
I would go with the Scott.
April 5, 2018 at 6:49 am #237986
The bike, “broke?” Can you elaborate before misleading with vague comments?
April 6, 2018 at 6:11 pm #238087
I got a chance to ride both today, although it was snowing out so I could only do a parking lot test. Geometry and component wise the6 are almost identical. Weight is within a 1/2 lb. it comes down to a few minor differences, TwinLoc and the rear shocks, and then looks after that. trek seems to be more popular and more recognition but without getting them out on the trails seems to be a toss up
April 7, 2018 at 11:01 am #238091
As a former dealer of both bikes, I have this to say:
Both are well-equipped, good-riding bikes. That said, I’d go with the Scott. While we carried Trek longer than Scott, we had no warranty issues with Scott’s bikes and Trek had quite a few. The suspension design on the Fuel is a bit more advanced, but the Scott’s TwinLock system almost gives you three bikes in one. The differences between how the bike performs with the push of a switch is pretty amazing. Open suspension, the bike rides like a tank over most obstacles the average to rough trail will throw at you. In mid-travel it is more efficient, not quite XC-like, but great for long, technical climbs and rolling trails. Flip to “locked” and you have a great bike for the long fire-road climbs and pavement slogs to get to the trail. Also great for longer stretches of sand – especially on a ‘plus’ bike – where it is not rough and you want efficiency for getting through the extra resistance. So 0 you said your trails were mild-to-medium… If you don’t ever think you’ll ride rougher stuff, then the Trek might be a tiny bit nimbler-handling, and with a “standard size” tire may be a bit faster when you are really pushing it on a smoother trail – but the Scott will be a more versatile bike. The only downside to the Scott is the extra cabling in the front, which bothers some folks. I found that when I was riding the type of trails I like to ride I didn’t notice the cables at all.
Either way, you should have a good time. As far as the comment on “get it on-line – when I had an issue they told me to take it to the shop and send them the bill”: Sure go ahead – but don’t be too surprised that if you do, in a few years you may not have a shop to go to to do this. Our shop closed for a combination of personal reasons (health of a partner) and fighting the loss of business due to on-line sales. You have two places you can go to test ride the bikes, and have warranty or service handled – some of which should be handled no-charge to you without having to deal with a 3rd-party. You can’t test ride an on-line bike, and all the reviews in the world, and personal opinion won’t tell you which way to go ultimately. Which of the two bikes did YOU like the feel of? Things like saddle-to-bar position, and just the ‘feel’ can only be tested in real life. While I am making a decent living doing a service-only business these days, I truly wonder how long the retail market will survive in it’s current form. OK </rant> Enjoy your new ride!
April 7, 2018 at 3:34 pm #238093
I agree with your rant, I will be supporting one of the two LBS with either purchase. In past bikes I didn’t spend much time switching suspension settings, usually let it in the middle and ride. So not sure on if I would use TwinLoc and really enjoy it or if it was just one more thing I am thinking about while riding. I did have a trek Superfly 29r, I am looking forward to just a fun 27.5”+ bike which both of these are. For me the feel from what I could tell in the parking lot was almost identical just as the specs would indicate, the trail might tell me something different, but wont get the chance to try that before I buy.
April 8, 2018 at 7:57 am #238095
Good problem to have- both bikes are great. When dealing with 2 such equal quality bikes, it simply comes down to fit. Go out of your way to test ride these on a trail and which ever feels better, buy it. If you let the shop know you’re going to buy one or the other based on your test ride, they are likely to let you take them out. If you’re looking for a versatile bike, throw the Remedy into the mix. Good luck and enjoy the new ride.
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