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Ok, so I was riding on the Owl Ridge trail at the NC Arboretum today. This isn’t what any experienced rider would consider a difficult trail, but it was just about enough for a newbie like me. I was riding along the ridge when I encountered about a dozen or so young girls. I mean like six or seven years young. They all had super cool backpacks, which were thrown at random around the trail and , sitting the middle of it all was their fearless leader, a man in his twenties, absorbed in a book.
I didn’t even go into how grossly impolite he was but just went directly to how suddenly and seriously a rider, or he, or worse than either, one of those little girls could be hurt. He just looked at me like I wasn’t speaking the same language as him.
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Wow man,that’s really weird,creepy and it would’ve pissed me off.
As cult-ish as it seemed he may have been one of their older brothers but that’s still a bit creepy.
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Odd….
"ShinyPebble" wroteThey all had super cool backpacks
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"Asfyxiate" wrote
Odd….
[quote="ShinyPebble":253il5pb]They all had super cool backpacks
….?[/quote:253il5pb]
Okay fair enough. The super cool backpacks reference was a bit incongruous in the context of the narrative. It’s just the way I write. I use unexpected combinations of ingredients when I cook, too. Sometimes it comes out delicious and sometimes it just comes out strange.
I don’t normally explain this stuff but I am new here and I want to get along. 😀 -
Should of cliped him, Or better yet strait up smoked him. "Oh sorry dude , didn’t see you sitting in the middle of the trail. "
But ,maybe that’s just me. 😮
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i’ve come across people like that before on the trail. there was this guy on the trail (flat rock, ga) he is a jogger and is taking his breather, or rest or what ever, but he is right in the middle of the trail which is a drop off on one side and a wall on the other side (trail dug into hillside). I say excuse me so that I could maybe go walk by (slowing down as i come closer). he stubbornly, and blaintly stands in the same spot stands up straight, and looks me in the eye………………….since we are talking about stupid here, i’m 280 lbs., i’m on a bike that’s rolling, there is a steep drop off for a long ways down, he is about 5’4" and i would say about 160-170. in a head on collsion who would you think win the crash???……..stupid in my opinion…………..So i stop out of respect and manner. He proceeds to tell me that bikers are not allowed on this trail, it is for walkers only (all this in a loud demanding barking tone) and that need to turn the way that cam from and head back the truck and leave. This trail system is one that i helped create. It was created for trail riders, by trail riders. I know who ain’t allowed and is allowed. Walkers/joggers are allowed, but only so that the city would let us build these trails in the city park (its a big park, lotsa land). The trailhead sign tells people that bikers have the right of way out here. He disagrees with me on that. I just ignored him and shoved my way past him and continued on the trail how i was.
So i feel ya man
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"ChiliPepper" wrote
Some people will always be retarded no matter how much or how hard the truth slaps them in the face!! 😏 😏 😏
Reminds me of people driving their vehicles.
driving their vehicles, that’s and under statement.
Reason #1 i don’t do road bikes.
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"spazjensen" wrote
[quote="ChiliPepper":v7x2q59c]Some people will always be retarded no matter how much or how hard the truth slaps them in the face!! 😏 😏 😏
Reminds me of people driving their vehicles.
driving their vehicles, that’s and under statement.
Reason #1 i don’t do road bikes.[/quote:v7x2q59c]
Hey man, road biking is like the most dangerous thing out there, for that exact reason.
People tell me I’m crazy mountain biking, and my comeback is, well look at all the cars that hit road bikers….
Sad.
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Yeah…I see the same stuff here in Georgia all the time…. My local trail is in a Park as well. It is marked as a biking trail only…signs everywhere, but they still walk or jog it all the time. Me I dont really care, but if you say anything they get bent out of shape. I have almost crashed a couple of times trying not to hit them. So now no more Mr nice guy… I just buzz right on through and guess what… the F*#%ers move out of the way! I am 52 years old and I aint taking no crap from anyone! This is our turf. I am playing the crazy old man card!
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"Stevie_D" wrote
Yeah…I see the same stuff here in Georgia all the time…. My local trail is in a Park as well. It is marked as a biking trail only…signs everywhere, but they still walk or jog it all the time. Me I dont really care, but if you say anything they get bent out of shape. I have almost crashed a couple of times trying not to hit them. So now no more Mr nice guy… I just buzz right on through and guess what… the F*#%ers move out of the way! I am 52 years old and I aint taking no crap from anyone! This is our turf. I am playing the crazy old man card!
AWESOME!!!
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"Stevie_D" wrote
Yeah…I see the same stuff here in Georgia all the time…. My local trail is in a Park as well. It is marked as a biking trail only…signs everywhere, but they still walk or jog it all the time. Me I dont really care, but if you say anything they get bent out of shape. I have almost crashed a couple of times trying not to hit them. So now no more Mr nice guy… I just buzz right on through and guess what… the F*#%ers move out of the way! I am 52 years old and I aint taking no crap from anyone! This is our turf. I am playing the crazy old man card!
If they want to hang out on the bike trails , they will have to keep there heads up ! Cause word has it that, that crazy old man rides in these parts of Georgia. And he don’t slow down for nobody !! 😆 😆
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"garbanzo" wrote
[quote="Stevie_D":yc878lti]Yeah…I see the same stuff here in Georgia all the time…. My local trail is in a Park as well. It is marked as a biking trail only…signs everywhere, but they still walk or jog it all the time. Me I dont really care, but if you say anything they get bent out of shape. I have almost crashed a couple of times trying not to hit them. So now no more Mr nice guy… I just buzz right on through and guess what… the F*#%ers move out of the way! I am 52 years old and I aint taking no crap from anyone! This is our turf. I am playing the crazy old man card!
If they want to hang out on the bike trails , they will have to keep there heads up ! Cause word has it that, that crazy old man rides in these parts of Georgia. And he don’t slow down for nobody !! 😆 😆[/quote:yc878lti]
this coming from a guy in whistler. lucky bastarD 😠
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"spazjensen" wrote
i’ve come across people like that before on the trail. there was this guy on the trail (flat rock, ga) he is a jogger and is taking his breather, or rest or what ever, but he is right in the middle of the trail which is a drop off on one side and a wall on the other side (trail dug into hillside). I say excuse me so that I could maybe go walk by (slowing down as i come closer). he stubbornly, and blaintly stands in the same spot stands up straight, and looks me in the eye………………….since we are talking about stupid here, i’m 280 lbs., i’m on a bike that’s rolling, there is a steep drop off for a long ways down, he is about 5’4" and i would say about 160-170. in a head on collsion who would you think win the crash???……..stupid in my opinion…………..So i stop out of respect and manner. He proceeds to tell me that bikers are not allowed on this trail, it is for walkers only (all this in a loud demanding barking tone) and that need to turn the way that cam from and head back the truck and leave. This trail system is one that i helped create. It was created for trail riders, by trail riders. I know who ain’t allowed and is allowed. Walkers/joggers are allowed, but only so that the city would let us build these trails in the city park (its a big park, lotsa land). The trailhead sign tells people that bikers have the right of way out here. He disagrees with me on that. I just ignored him and shoved my way past him and continued on the trail how i was.
So i feel ya man
That’s funny. I guess he was lucky you were in a peaceful mood. Why do some hikers have to be so anal and think they own the trail and no one else should dare to disturb them? What’s even worst is when some knucklehead on a mt bike which should know better decides to stop and work on his bike in the middle of the trail right at the bottom of a huge and gnarly, rutted, washed out, hold on for dear life drop. I nearly took a bad spill because of some tool like that. He did say sorry, but I was too mad and kept riding because I wanted to educate him in a violent manner.
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"cujo" wrote
Why do some hikers have to be so anal and think they own the trail and no one else should dare to disturb them?
The same reason some mt. bikers are anal to hikers. lack of respect to the other trail/land users. Let it be hikers, trail runners, hunters or horse back riders. If the trail/land is open to them, they have the same right to be there as mt. bikers. And remember proper trail ethics the right of way.have us yeilding
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I’m all about sharing the trail. But how many articles do I have to read about hikers and equestrians protesting mt. bikers having access to their trails? Never seem to hear about it the other way around…hmmm. That’s the point I’m making.
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As long as we have people "playing the crazy old man card" you will have protests and land management meetings. As much as it drives you crazy you have to take the high road and maintain self-control and respect when encountering the self-appointed jerk-offs who are determined to keep bikers off the trail.
For example, I despise having horses on the trail (mostly because of the damage they do), but I still dismount, get way the hell off the trail, ask if there is anything else they want me to do, wait for them to go by, and then continue on my way. It frosts my a$$ to no end to do that, but I figure I’m better off kissing their a$$es to keep them from bitching at the land manager about the effing bikers out there terrorizing the innocent hay burners.
You gotta weigh the alternatives, and the fact is, land managers have to listen to everybody, and whoever screams the loudest, even it they are not at all justified in their whining, gets the most attention. So if we want to keep rolling on the trails we just have to humor the whack-jobs who think they own the trails. In the meantime, get to know the land managers, show them you just aren’t another arrogant bastard, and try to make their life easier by helping out when they need help, contributing to a constructive discussion when they have meetings, etc. If you can keep the land managers on your side then every biker’s life is easier.
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Well said.
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well put bonkedagain. I agree that the more that a person doesn’t make a a baby out of themselves the more they are liked. And respect is a big role to in the whole thing. I will say that i would respect a horse enough to move out of its way, gladly doing so 😃 (biggest in size wins to me). Horses get spooked by a raling mtb’er most of the time so its for the better. Although in a place where mtb’ers have the right-o-way, I (we) should get the respect. That’s what i was saying earlier above about my head on hiker incident. I know its rare to hear that bikers have the right a way but its true at this one place. Hence we here (flat rock) are fortunate in that case. 😃 😃
Its one small step for biker-kind and one leap for southeast AL and southwest GA bikers.
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Wow.
I’m reading these posts and can’t believe that these conflicts are still going on.
In 20 years of riding trails, I’ve lived in 2 places where people seem to just get along on the trail–Salt Lake and Northern VT. In both locations, common courtesy rule the day. It’s really not that big a deal to stop the bike and let a hiker/runner/equestrian go by. Say hello and how are you while you’re at it. You never know where you going to run into that person again, and you might want them on your side.
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We heard you the first time. 😆
I guess we’re lucky in Florida were we keep the equestrian, hiking, and biking trails separate for the most part. I know I don’t like riding on trails covered in horse poo so it’s a good thing. At Alafia there are places were horses and bikes cross paths and the horses definitely spook very easily even if you ride very slow at a reasonable distance….another good reason to keep the trails separate. No bubbles no troubles. I won’t comment on the hikers because they usually don’t leave their poo on the trails. 😆 Usually.
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"rogerk" wrote
Wow.
I’m reading these posts and can’t believe that these conflicts are still going on.
In 20 years of riding trails, I’ve lived in 2 places where people seem to just get along on the trail–Salt Lake and Northern VT. In both locations, common courtesy rule the day. It’s really not that big a deal to stop the bike and let a hiker/runner/equestrian go by. Say hello and how are you while you’re at it. You never know where you going to run into that person again, and you might want them on your side.
Well I can second that, people here are nice, I mean the biggest city here has a population of only 39,000 I think it is.
Less people, means less chance of getting somebody who a %@$*.
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hah,may be the man is a chump.
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Not to come across as the "1-25" But if you stop to hang out, take a picture, fix a gibbled bike, whatever, just don’t do it in a dumb spot. As long as people have enough common sense to pick good spots for there rest stops, everyone will get along just fine.
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We have a lot of mixed use trails in the Richmond area, and several aren’t one-way only, so not only do you come across others riding, running, hiking, etc., they are often coming from the other direction. It just pays to stay alert and be respectful.
Recently, we were rolling down a fire road to the trail head for a trail designated for MTBers and there were dozens of high school x-country runners pouring out of the woods. We saw the coach and asked how many more were coming. He said only a few, but that they knew the MTBers have the right of way, so at least some people recognize when the MTBers have the ROW, which is rare. On the way in, we only passed one or two more runners. Everybody got over to one side a bit. No problems.
Even though they supposedly knew MTBers had the ROW, I was just imagining coming down the trail and crashing into a crowd of teenage runners. That could be a messy situation…probably not the best place for a trail run, coach!
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Here in Anchorage most trails are "Multi-use" and for the most part the trails are shared really well. And I have no problem slowing down for runner, hikers or even slower MTB’ers but what makes me mad is coming around a curve and running through horse crap right in the middle of the trail!
I was riding this weekend on our local in town single track course and right in the middle of the network is the most technical trail and some trail terrorist on his 4 legged bulldozer had decided to ride down a wet trail tearing up the trail tread some of the banked curves and leaving crap everywhere.
Now, even though it is widely known that this trail is off limits to horses some people will still be stupid and irresponsible when it comes to trails.
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Like JDH, most everything in my area is multi-use. Some trails don’t allow horses, some don’t allow mountain bikers, but all allow hikers. Since we’re the new kid on the block, the rule of the trail here is that mountain bikers yield to everyone. Its usually not that big a deal, you just have to always anticipate a horse or jogger around the next curve. Until horses wear diapers horse poo is just part of the scenery. Most problems occur on trails that have poor line of sight – usually on older trails that weren’t designed for multiple use. Trails with poor drainage are easily messed up by horses. Still, I haven’t had any trouble with hikers or horse folks. 4-wheelers can trash a trail worse than horses – some of those guys break all the rules.
Jealous of you all that have dedicated MTB trails.
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My pet peeve is when a moose decides not to yield the right of way to me.
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I really hate when the moose won’t yeld the right of way!
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Best thing to do with that is yell really loud and charge him…IT WILL get him / her to move….Unfortunately it will move AT you…kinda like a charge!..
PS Please don’t try that….Laws of Physics are against you on that.
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Moose can be dumb as a box of rocks and even less likely to move then a rock when you want them to. I have a bull moose that loves to lick the salt off of my driveway every winter and on a couple occasions I’ve had to bump him with my truck to get out of my garage.
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i ride with spaz and he usually gets just ahead of me and all of a sudden this person shows up, looks scared to death and quickly moves off the trail i thank them, apologize for what might have happened ahead! what it comes down to, it looks like the lesson was scared into them(spaz is a BIG guy) and i’ve nominated myself his spokesman. just for the good of <humanity>?
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You guys and your Moose Stories are Great!!
I used to live in Louisville KY. There was a really nice park on the way to Ft. Knox. Had great Mt Bike trails and the Hikers and Bikers all got along really well. The City in the Infinant wisdom (Might have to do with the fact it is horse Country) decided it wasn’t fair that the Horses only had a few miles so the made ALL trails open to everyone.
Now this park sits ON the Ohio River and has a lot of drainage areas so it was frequentlly wet. Well the Hikers and Bikers don’t like the wet conditions so we all stayed away from the park when it was wet. Well the Horses must just love the wet stuff cause they just tore it to shreds. I recently went back there and found out that since there was nobody using the park they closed it! I talked to a few friends and they said the trails got so bad that you couldn’t ride them.
My point I guess is that Everybody, Hikers, Bikers AND Horses need to respect the integrity of any trail system. I have been on many trails where everyone got along great. Of course as previously noted you always find an A-hole. I just ignore them and they usually go away!
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My wife and I were out for a ride near Fort Collins, CO and I rounded a corner and a MTBer was parked in the trail "Smoking"!!! I ran off the trail and yelled back at the wife to look out for the A$$ hole in the trail!! (WTF was he thinking) Sorry but my wife is new to MTBing and the last thing I need for her to go down because of someone to lazy to pull off the trail.
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"rogerk" wrote
Wow.
Salt Lake and Northern VT.
I have been to both of those places, and these are the same types of places where people stop their cars at green lights to let pedestrians cross. Seriously, everyone is just happy and nice there. I think its something in the water, and being from Boston, the land of the angry lynch mobs, it kind of freaks me out.
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