October 6, 2017 at 10:46 am #226487
There are very few things I love more in life than shredding singletrack on my Santa Cruz Hightower. Unfortunately work, kids, life limit the amount of time I get to ride. I’m lucky if I can squeeze in a few rides a month in the summer and before I know it, the riding season is over. As I get older, it’s harder to maintain a high level of cardio, only riding a few times a month. So I committed the ultimate sin and picked up a gravel bike to commute to work on. So when I do get a chance to hit up the trails, my legs and lungs are strong. I honestly knew nothing about road bikes with dropped bars. So after a lot of research I went with the Raleigh Tamland 2 as a nicer bike but not breaking the bank, retails for around $2k. I found out gravel bikes offer more relaxed ergos and typically have cromolly steel frames to absorb a lot of road clatter and wider tires, although comparing it to my 2.8in mtb tires, these things look twizzler thin. Bike also comes with a carbon fork, 1×11 drive train and disc breaks.
So after putting about 60 miles on the bike, I’m really happy with the purchase. Still not crazy about riding on roads, mostly because of other drivers, give me tech rock gardens any day. The gravel bike is great for all the road debris I’m forced to ride thru. I’m also so deep rooted in my mtb ways I ride with my Smith Forefront helmet and baggie shorts. Could care less what the other roadies think. All in all this is a great way to stay fit and train for what I love….Singletrack. Anyway, here’s the new rig. She’ll always be second fiddle to my Hightower, but still a fun little bike.
October 9, 2017 at 2:09 am #226525
Nice looking bike. The wheels look solid. How’s their weight?
October 10, 2017 at 5:18 am #226611
Not totally sure on the weight of each wheel. Bike weighs 23.5lbs which is more than light enough for me. I don’t want to train on a bike that is so light, that when I go back to my mountain bike it feels like I’m pedaling a tanker. In total this bike is roughly 6lbs lighter than my Hightower.
I will say my plan is working thus far. Each commute to work is faster than the day before, setting PR’s each time on Strava.
October 10, 2017 at 8:32 am #226612
Cool bike. I’ve got a Salsa Warbird with a fairly similar setup. The best thing about gravel/cross bikes is they’re fun on trails too. Check your rims and tires to see if they’re tubeless compatible, that helps when heading off road. Finding little sneaky bits of trail on your commute is part of the fun.
October 10, 2017 at 2:12 pm #226660
I got into gravel grinding this year and find it awesome. Very relaxing and great work out. I ride an aluminum Devinci Hatchet which came under $2000 but for that kind of price I got a bike with pretty high end parts. I think gravel bikes will take over the road bike market because they are almost as fast, more capable and way more comfortable then ordinary road bikes.
October 10, 2017 at 2:37 pm #226664
Don’t worry about the roadies, I suspect the vast majority of them are cool with your bike and attire. Many of the roadies I know are looking at (or already own) a gravel bike themselves.
I was hoping to pull the trigger on a gravel grinder this fall, but I’m still really hesitant as I’m not convinced I’d use it enough to warrant the expense. Would love to hear from you a year from now on your experiences with the bike; good and bad.
December 4, 2017 at 2:23 pm #230061
So I’ve got about 350 miles on the bike over the past 2 months. You could say I’m a YUUUUGE fan. A few things that I’ve noticed over the few hundred miles I’ve put on it.
The Good- I hate to admit it, but this bike is a blast to ride and I’ve easily ridden it 5x more than my mountain bike. Mostly because I have great roads just outside my neighborhood, where as there aren’t any great MTB trails within 30-40 minutes, also weather has been a factor. I can say without question, road riding is hands down easier. My typical MTB ride was in the 15 mile ball park. On this thing I average around 30 miles per ride and even squeezed out a 60 miler. It’s great for training, which was the intention of the purchase. My fitness levels have gone through the roof. I can’t wait to tackle some of my MTB segments on Strava in the spring. A minor bonus, but a bonus at least….cleaning is a cinch. Way less moving parts and tough to reach places. Can have it sparkling new in 5 minutes.
The Bad- The brakes on this thing , particularly the rear is horrible. I figured getting disc brakes would be an upgrade but it takes all four fingers and all of my strength to slow down once I get going and on long descents, I reach muscle fatigue. The brakes definitely miss the mark, but I haven’t encountered any situations that made me regret getting the bike or spending the money. And I can’t leave out the saddle. It’s a Raleigh brand saddle and it’s rough. Even with chamois I’m hurting after 20 miles. It could be that my a$$ was pampered riding a dual suspension all these years, but gun to my head, I’m going to replace the saddle first and foremost.
All in all, I’m really glad I picked this bike up. I honestly can’t compare it to any other gravel/cx bikes, but as a whole, it’s a great way to keep the pedals churning for those of us who have logistical issues hitting the trails as often as we’d like.
December 4, 2017 at 3:54 pm #230075
What brakes are you running? I’ve got BB7s on my Vaya and love them. They’re super simple to setup and adjust, and have great stopping power. Probably be a good cheap upgrade.
December 5, 2017 at 7:44 am #230106
It could be the brake pads and not the brakes themselves. Looks like you’ve got the TRP Spyre on there? If so, I’ve got the same brakes on my gravel bike and have been pretty happy with them. Swap out to some metallic pads and take the time to bed them in properly before dropping money on a new brake set. Also, if you feel like you’ve got more lever pull than you want, you can move the pads in. There’s a little 3mm hex on each side of the caliper. Wind that in and the pads will move closer to the rotor. That will cut down on lever pull substantially.
May 15, 2018 at 11:12 am #240152
1,000 mile update. I’ve had the bike since October and just passed the 1,000 mile mark. The primary reason for getting the bike was to keep my legs fresh during the winter months and to get rides in on a more frequent basis for when my MTB trails are a muddy mess. That being said, after a winter of training on this thing, I’m setting PR’s on Strava on every ride, shaving minutes off some segments. Sections of climbs where I would typically need to hike-a-bike, I can now muscle my way up now. So mission accomplished! This was one of the best purchases I have made in a long time.
The bike itself….I originally griped about the brakes being weak. After some tinkering around, I realized the lever actuation was off, after an adjustment, the brakes work great! User error as this was my first drop bar bike. So far I swapped out the saddle for a Fabric Scoop Shallow Elite. The stock saddle was pretty horrible and after a few hundred miles on the Fabric I’ve been really happy. I also swapped out the stock tires for some WTB Resolutes and converted tubless. I love the retro sidewalls of the Resolutes.
Final Comments: The bike is a lot of fun, plain and simple. It’s allowed me to get out and turn the cranks when trail conditions are less than ideal. I’ve looked at upgrading to a better gravel bike but I honestly don’t have a single gripe about the Tamland 2 that would justify the need. It’s been rock solid on the reliabilty front as well.
May 15, 2018 at 4:10 pm #240168
I read this at the right time; I have the same conflicts finding time to ride to keep my cardio up. I have been trying to talk myself out of getting another bike as I have four that don’t get ridden enough, but being able to ride to work few times a week would be awesome. How do you motivate yourself to ride in the morning when the car/truck is so easy though? Obviously once you make it to work, you gotta ride home so no problem there. I should just pull the trigger and shame myself into riding it a lot!
May 31, 2018 at 2:19 pm #241087
After a lot of forum research, I pulled the trigger on a 62cm 2017 Tamland 2 about 4 months ago. I’m up to 300 miles on it, it’s my lunch ride trainer for mountain bike season. Just wanted to echo the OP’s sentiment, it’s a really fun bike. I ride a lot of steep paved climbs / dirt road descents in the Boulder area and I’m surprised at how fast I can get down the dirt and how smooth it is with the steel frame, carbon fork and 40c tires. It’s heavy – and my frame is huge – but I’m 6’5 and appreciate the cockpit space. It’s my first drop bar bike and has been an awesome solution to getting fast climbing miles in to keep the legs spinning for big MTB rides on the weekend. The gearing is a bit tall with the 1x drivetrain – not sure I’d want to ride it anywhere steep loaded down for bikepacking – but it’s reminds me of my 1x on my Nomad and the transition between the two bikes is seamless despite how different they are. The only things I’ve done are pedals and replaced the awful saddle with a WTB Volt.
June 1, 2018 at 8:52 am #241167
I love bikes like this. I regret purchasing a cantilever equipped cx bike a couple years back right when the road disc thing started.
Don’t worry about MTB fashion on the road, lots of the cool road/cx/track Instagram kids roll with jorts and flannel for chill rides so you’re actually hip.
My one piece of fashion related advice is to get a shorter stem with some rise so you can roll those bars into a more neutral/level piston. It will help you reach the controls more easily. A little upward tilt is good for technical riding but that’s a little extra.
August 21, 2018 at 2:40 pm #245407
Thanks for sharing this post!
I really enjoyed it and haven’t seen to much info on this under-rated, under-reviewed bike.
I recently bought the 2017 version of the Tamland 1 bike (light green, 2x) but very similar experience. I love the way it rides both on gravel, hard pack or unpaved roads, and even some light off-road (not too rocky!). It’s not a lightweight bike but it also can carry a rack, panniers etc for commuting and can also move fast when you need to get from A to B on the road or bike path.
The steel frame and carbon fork work well together and the geometry makes it feel very compliant and comfortable for a non-suspension bike.
The bike shop swapped the tires to Panaracer Gravelking 38mm tubeless which have a small amount of tread but will need some more knobs come fall. Works well anywhere from 35 – 60 psi.
Was curious about going 1x to get rid of the front shifting, but in the end the $$$ was right! and the option is always there if I need to replace parts (chainrings, cranks etc.)
August 27, 2018 at 1:06 pm #245705
@ Sean Gordon- Yeah I was nervous at first dropping down low on the bars, so I had them rotated up. I’ve since rolled them down to a neutral position.
I’ve since joined some of the local riders on road rides and I’ve been out in front smoking most of the pack on their road specific bikes. They can’t believe I can be so fast on a gravel bike with wider tires and steel frame. A lot of them are looking to switch over as my bike can go anywhere. I’ve also started entering gravel races and holding my own on my lower-mid tier Raleigh. I still love MTB more, but considering I’ve put about 1500 miles this year on my gravel bike and only 300 or so on my MTB, the proof is in the pudding. I love gravel grinding and it’s made mtb more fun as I can climb anything and ride for days now.
August 27, 2018 at 1:13 pm #245706
August 27, 2018 at 1:20 pm #245707
- Raleigh Tamland 2 gravel grinder
- 6 months, 3 weeks ago
- Skinny tires in the dirt
- 5 years, 8 months ago
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