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Sound off on Lance!
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Never tested positive. It is funny that years later "team mates" come forward years later. Book deal? Movie deal? Who knows. Lance won 6 TDF. Drugs? Don’t think so or they would show on the tests. New drugs that don’t show? Who knows. He won 6 in a row and his heart didn’t explode in the Alps. Good lord let’s let this rest. John Tomac drank colas with caffeine. What does that indicate? Just asking. 😄 Later,
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"fat_billy" wrote
Never tested positive. It is funny that years later "team mates" come forward years later. Book deal? Movie deal? Who knows. Lance won 6 TDF. Drugs? Don’t think so or they would show on the tests. New drugs that don’t show? Who knows. He won 6 in a row and his heart didn’t explode in the Alps. Good lord let’s let this rest. John Tomac drank colas with caffeine. What does that indicate? Just asking. 😄 Later,
Sorry Fat Billy–I don’t agree with you. I know too many athletes who blood doped, took roids etc., There were a lot of people in this together and a lot of people who benefitted from Lances performance. There will always be a way to decieve and get away with things. The cat is out of the bag and the writing is on the wall! Don’t be so naive 😉
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Guess you’ve decided how we need to feel. 😕 Later,
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when isn’t there some sort of "doping" scandal with the Tour? When a rider is accused of this it seems they are just assumed to be guilty.
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I’d love to think Lance didn’t dope, but it’s hard to believe. So many people say he saw them do it. Yeah, I know he never tested positive. That just means he may have beaten the tests.
I mean…he beat some of the best athletes in the world, over and over again. And they were all on dope.
Everyone was (is?) on dope, so I think his victories still stand.
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in a sport where all the competition is pretty much about the same strength, riding ability, training and bike weight and ect. to win it seven times in a row, i would say doping just like everybody else!!! and don’t forget to let r inject. oops, i mean rip 😆
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"dgaddis" wrote
I’d love to think Lance didn’t dope, but it’s hard to believe. So many people say he saw them do it. Yeah, I know he never tested positive. That just means he may have beaten the tests.
I mean…he beat some of the best athletes in the world, over and over again. And they were all on dope.
Everyone was (is?) on dope, so I think his victories still stand.
over 500 tests and non negative? Kinda hard to beat a drug test that many times.
Even if he did, I agree with Dgaddis, they should still stand bc everyone seems to be doping. However, the integrity in me likes to believe he beat those ‘dopers’ drug free bc it makes me feel better. 😆
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I believed Floyd Landis when he said he didn’t dope after his TDF victory in 2006. Heck, I even bought his "I’m innocent" book. But we all know how that one turned out…
So I want to believe Lance is innocent but I can’t. Maybe I’m just trying to avoid the disappointment of finding out he did and that I fell for it (again). 😐
At this point I sorta think the UCI should just stop testing athletes. No matter what punishments they dole out the riders continue to dope and the UCI is forced to suspend racers, revise standings, etc. For me that makes it a waste of time to watch the races – you never know if the guy you see cross the line first is actually the winner. Heck, even years later you don’t know who the real winner was as in the case of Lance’s (potential) doping. Ridiculous.
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"trek7k" wrote
At this point I sorta think the UCI should just stop testing athletes. No matter what punishments they dole out the riders continue to dope and the UCI is forced to suspend racers, revise standings, etc.
I disagree. I think they should continue testing, and anyone who’s found guilty of doping gets a lifetime ban. No fist time warnings or suspensions, but you’re done, forever. I’d imagine that would clean things up pretty quickly.
note: I said ‘found guilty of doping’ not ‘tested positive’ – two different things
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Between pro cyclists, Major League baseball players, etc, I’ve stopped caring anymore.
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Just drop all bans and promote doping. Imagine how much more awesome sports would be if all the athletes were juiced up animals on the verge of roidrage. I guarantee baseball would become more exciting to watch. ?
I’m kidding of course. I would also really like to believe that Lance didn’t dope. He has become a household name that a lot of people look up to and he needs to maintain his healthy image.
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"jtorlando25" wrote
Just drop all bans and promote doping. Imagine how much more awesome sports would be if all the athletes were juiced up animals on the verge of roidrage. I guarantee baseball would become more exciting to watch. .
And make them do it for free…no salary, no prize money… 😼
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I’m on the fence with this. Testing for the TDF is apparently the most stringent testing of any kind, in any sport. Lance passed all with flying colors. To beat these test not once, not twice, but six times is a feat in itself. Everyone says how can someone win so many times without dope? Look at Greg LeMond, he won, what three tours? Apparently drug free right? If you look at any athlete in any sport of all time really, Lance Armstrong probably has more focus, more passion, more devotion, and just more sheer determination than just about anyone I can think of. Hell, he looked cancer in the face and kicked its ass, this guy’s a fighter for sure. I don’t know what to think really!
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In the end, he has only himself to face. If he did use PEDs beyond that which is permitted within the rules, he will feel guilty forever. If he didn’t, he will have a clear mind. Even if he managed to "fake" 5000 tests (seems highly unlikely), he will always have to live with himself, and the guilt will be relentless.
I truly hope he has a clear mind. He has been an excellent ambassador for the country, for the sport, and for those fighting cancer.
I hope this whole thing dies a quick death. We need a good guy with a white hat. I hope he continues to be the one.
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George Hincapie, one of Lance Armstrong’s closest friends during their time together at the U.S. Postal Service and Discovery Channel teams and the only member of all seven of Armstrong’s Tour de France-winning squads, testified before a federal grand jury that he and Armstrong had supplied one another with EPO and testosterone, CBS News reported Friday afternoon.
According to CBS News, Hincapie testified that he and Armstrong supplied each other with EPO and discussed having used testosterone to prepare for races.
Through an attorney Hincapie declined to be interviewed, citing the ongoing federal investigation led by FDA agent Jeff Novitsky.
Hincapie, reached by VeloNews Thursday, declined to comment on Hamilton’s confession and accusation. “I know you’ve got a job and you’ve got to ask these questions. I’ve got a job too. My job is here to race my bike, promote the sport that we all love; that I’ve sacrificed my whole life for. I just have no interest in dragging this sport through the mud, so I’m sorry, but I have no comment.”
When asked whether he had a reason to disbelieve Hamilton, Hincapie, who rode with him at Postal from 1997 to 2001, said, “I’m sorry. I’m not commenting.”
More here: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/ … ost-viewed
Seven-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong was part of a sophisticated doping program, according to a former teammate who testified before a grand jury investigating the U.S. cycling icon.In an interview broadcast Sunday on the CBS News program “60 Minutes,” Tyler Hamilton detailed what he told a Los Angeles grand jury and charged that team and world cycling officials helped keep Armstrong’s doping a secret.
“There are a lot of other cheats and liars out there too who have gotten away with it. It’s not just Lance,” Hamilton said. “With a little luck I would still be out there today being a cheat and a liar.”
Hamilton said he saw Armstrong receive a blood transfusion during the 2000 Tour and inject EPO during the 1999 Tour and before the 2000 and 2001 Tours.
“I saw him inject it more than one time like we all did, like I did many, many times,” Hamilton said. “He was the leader of the team. He doped himself like everybody else, being part of the culture of the sport.”
Hamilton said further that Armstrong “recommended it was a good idea for the team and myself I take some ‘therapy.’ He was recommending I take EPO.”
Armstrong “took what we all took, really, they’re no different than anyone else in the peloton,” Hamilton said. “There was EPO, testosterone and I did see a blood transfusion.”
More here: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/ … =whats-hot
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Hard to belive he beat all those other, positive tested, top athletes being clean 😆
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It took him two tries to beat Dave Wiens. 😆
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Let’s be aware that Hincappie has now issued a public statement denying that he made such statements and CBS news has been unable to provide proof that he did. In fact they seem to be backing away from those statements in total.
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Lance was diagnosed in 1996 with cancer and had surgery and chemo for the problem. AFTER that he won the TDF 6 times in a row. I guess he won because after the surgery he had only one "teabag" and was lighter due to the surgery. Dope this dope that, winning 6 years in a row and not developing "Pop Eye" fore arms or weight lifter legs doesn’t show me doping. All the testing was designed to allow a French rider to win. Too bad they could not keep the race out of the Alps and the few other hills. Does this mean we should exhume Regan because he used hair coloring? Rest my case. 😄 Later,
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"fat_billy" wrote
Guess you’ve decided how we need to feel. 😕 Later,
Just think you look at the obvious! 😀
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Dope or no dope this guy is an amazing athlete. I read a pretty long article a year or so in Bicycling Magazine about Lance and blood doping…I am on the fence as well but I believe jwh321 had a good point with saying that if he did dope, his own guilt will be enough…with cancer and everything this guy has been through enough. He has done so much for cycling, I respect him either way…
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Lance has a very inspirational story and I would LOVE to believe that he is innocent of doping. BUT I dare say that ALL top athletes in there respective sports do whatever they can to get that edge. I’m not saying that it’s right, but WE ask them to be Supermen and they are just trying to please.
As far as beating alot of tests……I’m sure because of Lance’s situation, there were certain drugs that were allowed to be overlooked because of the need to take care of his overall health. Could that help anybody ‘beat’ a drug test????
I WANT TO BELIVE. I admire the man. 😕
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