help building a sl xc/trail

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Ok guys, my beloved camber (120mm f/r) needs replacing. my goal is to build an awesome lightweight xc/trail bike. I need help finding a suitable frame, i have a brand new 2020 fox factory 34 sc that id like to use upfront, i also have a very new set of Duke racing 28/25.6 mm id carbon rims laced up on carbon ti hubs so a boost frame is a must. rear travel should be 120mm (my old bones need a little more cush than a 100 gives). so far i’ve found (1)INTENSE SNIPER TR,  Pros; 120 f/r, light,  meets most of my requirements. Cons: ht angle 66.5 seems really slack, no internal cable routing for remote lockout, reviews are mixed frame has a really soft and flexible rear triangle that some find annoying. (2) 2020 TREK TOP FUEL pros: its a trek! it has internal cable routing its got great geo, Cons: 115 rear travel (ok) weight frameset appears to be significantly heavier than the sniper or Orbea oiz. (3) 2020 ORBEA OIZ, (my favorite so far) pros; super light, stiff i’line cable routing meets all my requirements. Cons: ht angle is a little steep at 68, orbea does not sell a frame only so i have to buy a complete bike and sell all the takeoffs.

Have i missed any light weight frames with modern geo? all comments and suggestions are appreciated.

 

[ZipHead]

How about something like this NS frame?

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ns-bikes-eccentric-alu-evo-29-frame-2019/rp-prod165985?utm_source=awinus&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=generic&_%24ja=tsid%3A54495%7Ccgn%3Aawin%7Ckw%3A78888&awc=5623_1569806026_94a3217e9f0014cc95d9a0caecaf0677&utm_source=affiliate-window&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_campaign=Skimlinks&utm_term=Skimlinks&utm_content=Sub%2BNetworks

[Bike Nerd]

Sounds like you’re trying to put together a Down-Country Bike—short travel, light weight, progressive geo.  Check out BikeMag.com—The 10 Best Down-Country Bikes.  My three favorites are.

2020 Trek Fuel EX

2020 Santa Cruz Tallboy

2019 Ibis Ripley

I like these three because they all have progessive geometry without being too slack.   I think that a 67-66 degree head angle and a 75-76 seat angle as being just right for trail bikes even very short travel ones.  I wouldn’t buy any bike that didn’t have at least a 67 degre head angle and a 75 degree seat angle.  The other thing I like about these bikes is that they all have clearance for 29×2.6 tires.

[Bike Nerd]

Let me add the Specialized Stumpjumper ST (Short Travel) to my list above.

[Bike Nerd]

Also check out PinkBike.com—Video: 2020 Santa Cruz Tallboy VS Trek Fuel EX – Cage Match.

[vapidoscar]

What about the Fezzari that Matt reviewed. I think they sell frames.

[FrankS29]

The Niner Jet 9 RDO should be on your short list.

 

It’s an insanely capable bike that pedals uphill and comes back down with ease.

[ericmb4769]

You can order from here if you are doing DIY. They have Trek Fuel / Tall Bay as well.

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