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	<title>Comments on: BetterRide Core Skills 1 Camp: Why Everyone Should Take MTBing Lessons</title>
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		<title>By: mtbgreg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtbgreg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric, haha sorry for calling you out!  Totally agree with you about the practice--the more I try to put these skills into action the more I realize how much training and retraining it is going to require! It&#039;s definitely not easy--I def feel like I&#039;m Only going to get out of that class whatever I put in in practice time. 

@Roman, sorry man... Thanks for clearing that up though. Yeah dgaddis wrote a pretty lengthy blog post about the whole debacle:  http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-trails/advocacy-alert-three-ga-state-parks-to-target-mountain-bikers-with-a-trail-fee/

Also, if you guys ever want to get ahold of me or are ever passing through Dahlonega, feel free to shoot me a line at greg AT singletracks DOT com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric, haha sorry for calling you out!  Totally agree with you about the practice&#8211;the more I try to put these skills into action the more I realize how much training and retraining it is going to require! It&#8217;s definitely not easy&#8211;I def feel like I&#8217;m Only going to get out of that class whatever I put in in practice time. </p>
<p>@Roman, sorry man&#8230; Thanks for clearing that up though. Yeah dgaddis wrote a pretty lengthy blog post about the whole debacle:  <a href="http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-trails/advocacy-alert-three-ga-state-parks-to-target-mountain-bikers-with-a-trail-fee/" rel="nofollow">http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-trails/advocacy-alert-three-ga-state-parks-to-target-mountain-bikers-with-a-trail-fee/</a></p>
<p>Also, if you guys ever want to get ahold of me or are ever passing through Dahlonega, feel free to shoot me a line at greg AT singletracks DOT com</p>
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		<title>By: rytrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>rytrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Sorry for an offtopic here but don&#039;t have your email so posting here. I was wrong about Fort Yargo park. They do charge 2 bucks ON TOP of 5 for general entry. Screw them... Unfair and pointless. I was wrong. Found the truth this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Sorry for an offtopic here but don&#8217;t have your email so posting here. I was wrong about Fort Yargo park. They do charge 2 bucks ON TOP of 5 for general entry. Screw them&#8230; Unfair and pointless. I was wrong. Found the truth this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: DudeDowne</title>
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		<dc:creator>DudeDowne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Eric checking in from the class. Thanks for pointing out i clipped a tree. :-) Great article! You really articulated the value of Gene&#039;s curriculum and well trained coaching staff. Coach Chris Skolnick was awesome. For anyone on the fence...you should sign up now. Save the airfare/gas money and pedal to the clinic.

One quick note to potential students...you won&#039;t come out of a 3 day clinic ripping the trails. BetterRide will arm you with the knowledge and tools, but my feeling is that it will take lots of work to master the skills. So really when you consider the clinic actually lasts far longer than the 3 days you are there in person, the tutition is a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Eric checking in from the class. Thanks for pointing out i clipped a tree. <img src='http://www.singletracks.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Great article! You really articulated the value of Gene&#8217;s curriculum and well trained coaching staff. Coach Chris Skolnick was awesome. For anyone on the fence&#8230;you should sign up now. Save the airfare/gas money and pedal to the clinic.</p>
<p>One quick note to potential students&#8230;you won&#8217;t come out of a 3 day clinic ripping the trails. BetterRide will arm you with the knowledge and tools, but my feeling is that it will take lots of work to master the skills. So really when you consider the clinic actually lasts far longer than the 3 days you are there in person, the tutition is a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: BetterRide</title>
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		<dc:creator>BetterRide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mtbgreg, you are welcome. My goal is to help all riders reach their riding potential and goals and your exposure helps us reach more people.

@Jared13 You are welcome too. Everything is easier to explain with a coach in person but not everyone can make it to our camps, glad to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mtbgreg, you are welcome. My goal is to help all riders reach their riding potential and goals and your exposure helps us reach more people.</p>
<p>@Jared13 You are welcome too. Everything is easier to explain with a coach in person but not everyone can make it to our camps, glad to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 01:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Gene!
That makes perfect sense also. I was trying to visual was Greg was saying about the hips. I&#039;m sure it&#039;d be much  easier to explain it in one of your classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Gene!<br />
That makes perfect sense also. I was trying to visual was Greg was saying about the hips. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;d be much  easier to explain it in one of your classes.</p>
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		<title>By: mtbgreg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtbgreg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gene Hamilton, No problem! Thanks again for the great experience!
@rytrom, Thanks dude! That sounds like a good plan... I can&#039;t wait for my next trail ride to do some more practice! Also, I think now occasionally when my wife goes to the park to run, I&#039;ll bring my bike along so I can do drills in the parking lot.

Fun times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gene Hamilton, No problem! Thanks again for the great experience!<br />
@rytrom, Thanks dude! That sounds like a good plan&#8230; I can&#8217;t wait for my next trail ride to do some more practice! Also, I think now occasionally when my wife goes to the park to run, I&#8217;ll bring my bike along so I can do drills in the parking lot.</p>
<p>Fun times!</p>
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		<title>By: rytrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>rytrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, nice write up! 

Loved every moment of the camp and it was worth every penny.

Bought my flat pedals and a drop post (found a deal at $200 of Specialized Command Post). Very different expericne now! Now I go in the middle of the week to practice on the trail. Riding is for weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, nice write up! </p>
<p>Loved every moment of the camp and it was worth every penny.</p>
<p>Bought my flat pedals and a drop post (found a deal at $200 of Specialized Command Post). Very different expericne now! Now I go in the middle of the week to practice on the trail. Riding is for weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: mtbgreg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtbgreg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be a Gravity Dropper Turbo. Already in the mail and heading my way! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be a Gravity Dropper Turbo. Already in the mail and heading my way! <img src='http://www.singletracks.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stumpyfsr</title>
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		<dc:creator>stumpyfsr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Greg! Will keep an eye on blog for your review. What post is that gonna be? Personally myself can&#039;t complain about my KindShock - never fail. 
And that hip pivoting is something new to me - definatelly will start practice on it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Greg! Will keep an eye on blog for your review. What post is that gonna be? Personally myself can&#8217;t complain about my KindShock &#8211; never fail.<br />
And that hip pivoting is something new to me &#8211; definatelly will start practice on it</p>
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		<title>By: BetterRide</title>
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		<dc:creator>BetterRide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Everyone,

A couple of quick comments from the founder of BetterRide.

Greg, thanks for the great write up and tirelessly answering a lot of
questions from your readers.

Jared, I never liked the belly button advice as your belly button is
above your hips. When you ride a mtb correctly you are hinged forward
at the hips, which means if you focus on just having your belly button
pointed where you are going it is easy for the entire upper half of
your body to be turned into the turn too. This leaves your upper body
leaned into the turn taking down force (weight) off your tires. Think
of a headlight on each hip bone lighting your way around the turn and
decouple your hips from your upper body so you keep weight over the
tires (you belly button will still point through the turn but your
chest and head will stay above the bike).

Great to see an intelligent discussion on mtb skills!

Thanks,

Gene Hamilton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>A couple of quick comments from the founder of BetterRide.</p>
<p>Greg, thanks for the great write up and tirelessly answering a lot of<br />
questions from your readers.</p>
<p>Jared, I never liked the belly button advice as your belly button is<br />
above your hips. When you ride a mtb correctly you are hinged forward<br />
at the hips, which means if you focus on just having your belly button<br />
pointed where you are going it is easy for the entire upper half of<br />
your body to be turned into the turn too. This leaves your upper body<br />
leaned into the turn taking down force (weight) off your tires. Think<br />
of a headlight on each hip bone lighting your way around the turn and<br />
decouple your hips from your upper body so you keep weight over the<br />
tires (you belly button will still point through the turn but your<br />
chest and head will stay above the bike).</p>
<p>Great to see an intelligent discussion on mtb skills!</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Gene Hamilton</p>
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		<title>By: Jared13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg,
Cool. That&#039;s what I thought about the hips, I just wanted to make sure.
Completely agreed on the working on one thing at a time. Last year I focused on not checking the brakes before every turn (a momentum killer!) and vision. This year I was taking both of those and adding more bike lean (inside arm straight, outside arm bent, chest low.) Unfortunately, I forgot to account for the wider bars and clipped a tree :lol:

I can&#039;t wait for July! (My tentative return to the bike.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg,<br />
Cool. That&#8217;s what I thought about the hips, I just wanted to make sure.<br />
Completely agreed on the working on one thing at a time. Last year I focused on not checking the brakes before every turn (a momentum killer!) and vision. This year I was taking both of those and adding more bike lean (inside arm straight, outside arm bent, chest low.) Unfortunately, I forgot to account for the wider bars and clipped a tree <img src='http://www.singletracks.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for July! (My tentative return to the bike.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bubblehead10MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubblehead10MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spent more then 2 grand on my first ds bike.  Don&#039;t know when but it seems like an excellent idea to get some training at less then a third the cost, when I know I don&#039;t have any real skills.  I definatily will not upgrade again until I&#039;ve done a quality training camp.  I just can&#039;t imagine getting more out of any peace of equipment than I would from your coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent more then 2 grand on my first ds bike.  Don&#8217;t know when but it seems like an excellent idea to get some training at less then a third the cost, when I know I don&#8217;t have any real skills.  I definatily will not upgrade again until I&#8217;ve done a quality training camp.  I just can&#8217;t imagine getting more out of any peace of equipment than I would from your coach.</p>
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		<title>By: RoadWarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoadWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like it&#039;s been pretty well covered, so I&#039;ll just and my 2 cents in  agreement, A dropper post adds a whole new dimension in bike handling, and there is nothing like carrying a ton of speed through the corner, and getting most of the way up the next hill on momentum alone. Like skibum I find it real interesting how much better I ride a certain trail after having been to the camp. 
 One thing not mentioned is that in getting in a more proper position on the bike I find that I crash less often. It may not be pretty but I stay on the bike.
 The one thing that helped me the most, Vision, Vision, Vision . Yes I say that to myself all the time while riding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like it&#8217;s been pretty well covered, so I&#8217;ll just and my 2 cents in  agreement, A dropper post adds a whole new dimension in bike handling, and there is nothing like carrying a ton of speed through the corner, and getting most of the way up the next hill on momentum alone. Like skibum I find it real interesting how much better I ride a certain trail after having been to the camp.<br />
 One thing not mentioned is that in getting in a more proper position on the bike I find that I crash less often. It may not be pretty but I stay on the bike.<br />
 The one thing that helped me the most, Vision, Vision, Vision . Yes I say that to myself all the time while riding.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM_AU</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulM_AU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahaaa - I have just taken del of my new weapon ...XTC Composite 29er and am very much in love ...want to drop the bars on the stem to put a bit of a lower stoop on my natural position ....feels much better with climbs and for handling etc ...the reach to the bars &#039;seems&#039; fine as is with the stock &#039;giant&#039; stem ...for now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahaaa &#8211; I have just taken del of my new weapon &#8230;XTC Composite 29er and am very much in love &#8230;want to drop the bars on the stem to put a bit of a lower stoop on my natural position &#8230;.feels much better with climbs and for handling etc &#8230;the reach to the bars &#8216;seems&#8217; fine as is with the stock &#8216;giant&#8217; stem &#8230;for now <img src='http://www.singletracks.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mtbgreg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtbgreg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter reach as in horizontal length, but most short stems jut straight out and don&#039;t rise much.

Glad you enjoyed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter reach as in horizontal length, but most short stems jut straight out and don&#8217;t rise much.</p>
<p>Glad you enjoyed it!</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM_AU</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulM_AU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, and comments that follow - top shelf work!

Q: The shorter stem ....are you referring to a &#039;lower&#039; stem in vertical height ? or Shorter &#039;reach&#039; to the Reigns ? (Horizontal length) ?

Cheers again!

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, and comments that follow &#8211; top shelf work!</p>
<p>Q: The shorter stem &#8230;.are you referring to a &#8216;lower&#8217; stem in vertical height ? or Shorter &#8216;reach&#8217; to the Reigns ? (Horizontal length) ?</p>
<p>Cheers again!</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: mtbgreg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtbgreg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Claporte,

1. Check out the first-ever article I wrote for Singletracks.com: http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-training/transitioning-ski-board-skills-to-the-mtb-trail/

2. No this is strictly a skills camp. The fitness required is very minimal. Most of the day we would listen to theory and do drills in the parking lot, and towards the end of the day we&#039;d do a trail ride and put our skills into practice. We only did about 3-4 miles of trail time each day, but because of all the stops along the way and just practicing on specific sections each ride took 1-2 hours. 

So basically, no, you don&#039;t need to be very fit to do this camp. It&#039;s great for beginners in that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Claporte,</p>
<p>1. Check out the first-ever article I wrote for Singletracks.com: <a href="http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-training/transitioning-ski-board-skills-to-the-mtb-trail/" rel="nofollow">http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-training/transitioning-ski-board-skills-to-the-mtb-trail/</a></p>
<p>2. No this is strictly a skills camp. The fitness required is very minimal. Most of the day we would listen to theory and do drills in the parking lot, and towards the end of the day we&#8217;d do a trail ride and put our skills into practice. We only did about 3-4 miles of trail time each day, but because of all the stops along the way and just practicing on specific sections each ride took 1-2 hours. </p>
<p>So basically, no, you don&#8217;t need to be very fit to do this camp. It&#8217;s great for beginners in that way!</p>
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		<title>By: claporte</title>
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		<dc:creator>claporte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 Q&#039;s... 

1. What skill cross-overs with DH skiing? New to MTB, but used to race downhill on 
the HS team.

2. Would you suggest a basic fitness level before embarking on the 3-day course? Intimidated at being out of shape...</description>
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<p>1. What skill cross-overs with DH skiing? New to MTB, but used to race downhill on<br />
the HS team.</p>
<p>2. Would you suggest a basic fitness level before embarking on the 3-day course? Intimidated at being out of shape&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: skibum</title>
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		<dc:creator>skibum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds identical to the camp I took 5 years ago in Fruita.  The curiculum is proven.  
+1 on the short stem--made a huge difference in my confidence on sketchy downhills
+1 on the adjustable seatpost--great for keeping the flow on rapidly changing terrain
+1 on the motions for effective cornering.  To add on, another important component of cornering that I learned was the importance of braking before the turn and maintaining maximum speed coming out of the turn.  Exit speed was the mantra.  This makes a huge difference in maintaining momentum and fatigue over long/intense rides.
+1 on vision (the way BetterRide teaches it).  I never understood the importance of reference points--this alone was worth the price of admission.

Like Greg, I also came to mountain biking with a strong background in downhill skiing (should be no surprise given my moniker).  It&#039;s amazing how the same principles of learning apply to such different activities.  If you try to learn mogul skiing by combining all the motions at once (absorbtion, extension, edging, pivoting, pole plant, etc) you will fail miserably and learn nothing but frustration.  If you work on one motion until it becomes second nature and then incorporate the next and so on, you have a chance.  And so it is with mountain biking.

Probably the greatest thing the camp taught me was economy of motion.  I was a classic bull-in-a-china-shop; all power and now finesse.  So when I failed, I failed spectacularly, usually with an accompanying trip to the ER.  I also became fatigued quickly by expending all that energy unnecessarily.  After the camp, I could ride longer with far less energy expenditure.  

What&#039;s really interesting is you&#039;re not really sure just how valuable it was as you leave the camp.  Then, when you get out on your old trails and face your old nemesis (whatever obstacle(s) stymied you), then you know just how worth it it was.  There were about a half dozen obstacles that I thought I should be able to clean, but never could--that&#039;s what drove me to attend the camp in the first place.  Upon my return, I cleaned every one on the first attemt and did so easily.  The best part was I then cleaned some obstacles I had previously thought out of my reach forever.  Big smiles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds identical to the camp I took 5 years ago in Fruita.  The curiculum is proven.<br />
+1 on the short stem&#8211;made a huge difference in my confidence on sketchy downhills<br />
+1 on the adjustable seatpost&#8211;great for keeping the flow on rapidly changing terrain<br />
+1 on the motions for effective cornering.  To add on, another important component of cornering that I learned was the importance of braking before the turn and maintaining maximum speed coming out of the turn.  Exit speed was the mantra.  This makes a huge difference in maintaining momentum and fatigue over long/intense rides.<br />
+1 on vision (the way BetterRide teaches it).  I never understood the importance of reference points&#8211;this alone was worth the price of admission.</p>
<p>Like Greg, I also came to mountain biking with a strong background in downhill skiing (should be no surprise given my moniker).  It&#8217;s amazing how the same principles of learning apply to such different activities.  If you try to learn mogul skiing by combining all the motions at once (absorbtion, extension, edging, pivoting, pole plant, etc) you will fail miserably and learn nothing but frustration.  If you work on one motion until it becomes second nature and then incorporate the next and so on, you have a chance.  And so it is with mountain biking.</p>
<p>Probably the greatest thing the camp taught me was economy of motion.  I was a classic bull-in-a-china-shop; all power and now finesse.  So when I failed, I failed spectacularly, usually with an accompanying trip to the ER.  I also became fatigued quickly by expending all that energy unnecessarily.  After the camp, I could ride longer with far less energy expenditure.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s really interesting is you&#8217;re not really sure just how valuable it was as you leave the camp.  Then, when you get out on your old trails and face your old nemesis (whatever obstacle(s) stymied you), then you know just how worth it it was.  There were about a half dozen obstacles that I thought I should be able to clean, but never could&#8211;that&#8217;s what drove me to attend the camp in the first place.  Upon my return, I cleaned every one on the first attemt and did so easily.  The best part was I then cleaned some obstacles I had previously thought out of my reach forever.  Big smiles!</p>
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		<title>By: topjimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>topjimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day class is from 9am - 4pm:

http://mountaingoatadventures.com/coaching

I won&#039;t be able to take any because she is offering them on Saturdays I work.  I am going to contact her tonight and see about scheduling a group class on a weekend I am off.  Maybe I can get a couple more singletrack members to join me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day class is from 9am &#8211; 4pm:</p>
<p><a href="http://mountaingoatadventures.com/coaching" rel="nofollow">http://mountaingoatadventures.com/coaching</a></p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be able to take any because she is offering them on Saturdays I work.  I am going to contact her tonight and see about scheduling a group class on a weekend I am off.  Maybe I can get a couple more singletrack members to join me.</p>
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		<title>By: mtbgreg1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stumpyfsr, I should have a dropper post coming for review soon! 

Watch for a review on the blog.

@topjimmy, if you take the class be sure to report back and tell us what you thought! How many hours is that &quot;one-day&quot; class?

@Jared13, &quot;read that if you have a flashlight on your bellybutton, you’re trying shine the light through the corner.&quot; Yes, exactly. And to do that, you have to pivot your butt/hips off the bike to the outside of the turn so that your belly button, the core of your mass and momentum, is pointing through the turn. Just kind of different ways to explain the same thing. This all happens while you&#039;re doing other things like leaning the bike independently, pushing on the inside grip, shoving your outside elbow out, and dropping your outside foot.  I&#039;m still working on putting all the parts together, but our coach made a really good point: in addition to doing drills off the trail, when you&#039;re on the trail approach each ride with a purpose. When you&#039;re riding, focus on doing one thing, like sticking your elbow out. Next ride, focus on something else, like pivoting the hips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stumpyfsr, I should have a dropper post coming for review soon! </p>
<p>Watch for a review on the blog.</p>
<p>@topjimmy, if you take the class be sure to report back and tell us what you thought! How many hours is that &#8220;one-day&#8221; class?</p>
<p>@Jared13, &#8220;read that if you have a flashlight on your bellybutton, you’re trying shine the light through the corner.&#8221; Yes, exactly. And to do that, you have to pivot your butt/hips off the bike to the outside of the turn so that your belly button, the core of your mass and momentum, is pointing through the turn. Just kind of different ways to explain the same thing. This all happens while you&#8217;re doing other things like leaning the bike independently, pushing on the inside grip, shoving your outside elbow out, and dropping your outside foot.  I&#8217;m still working on putting all the parts together, but our coach made a really good point: in addition to doing drills off the trail, when you&#8217;re on the trail approach each ride with a purpose. When you&#8217;re riding, focus on doing one thing, like sticking your elbow out. Next ride, focus on something else, like pivoting the hips.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared13</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and pivoting my hips to the outside of the turn&quot;

You mean turning your hips through the turn, right? I think they&#039;re the same thing, just two different ways to say it. I read that if you have a flashlight on your bellybutton, you&#039;re trying shine the light through the corner.

And excellent point about the bike cost. IMO, it&#039;s easy to justify the cost of the class when consider the cost of the bike, helmet, gear, gadgets, etc, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and pivoting my hips to the outside of the turn&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean turning your hips through the turn, right? I think they&#8217;re the same thing, just two different ways to say it. I read that if you have a flashlight on your bellybutton, you&#8217;re trying shine the light through the corner.</p>
<p>And excellent point about the bike cost. IMO, it&#8217;s easy to justify the cost of the class when consider the cost of the bike, helmet, gear, gadgets, etc, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: topjimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>topjimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to get in a skills clinic to improve on my cornering skills for sure.  $700 is expensive and well worth it IMO.  Maybe one day I will spend the money.  I spend a lot of time at Blankets Creek.  Did the 6 hour race there last year and signed up again for it this year.  Mountain Goat Adventures handles the race there and they are starting day clinics as well.  Checked on their site and it looks like it is around $100 per person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to get in a skills clinic to improve on my cornering skills for sure.  $700 is expensive and well worth it IMO.  Maybe one day I will spend the money.  I spend a lot of time at Blankets Creek.  Did the 6 hour race there last year and signed up again for it this year.  Mountain Goat Adventures handles the race there and they are starting day clinics as well.  Checked on their site and it looks like it is around $100 per person.</p>
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		<title>By: stumpyfsr</title>
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		<dc:creator>stumpyfsr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review. And +1 for adjustable seatpost - this is the first and best upgrade for your bike and will improve everyone&#039;s skills.
It&#039;ll be nice to squeeze BR in my schedule</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review. And +1 for adjustable seatpost &#8211; this is the first and best upgrade for your bike and will improve everyone&#8217;s skills.<br />
It&#8217;ll be nice to squeeze BR in my schedule</p>
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		<title>By: azdrawdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>azdrawdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This camp is worth every penny. The SO and I attended the camp a couple of years back in Conyers (with Gene), and although I have been mtb&#039;ing for over 20 years, I learned a ton.  To this day, there&#039;s hardly ever a ride where we are not actively practicing a BR-taught technique.

We have discussed attending another camp in the future to further hone our skills. It&#039;s probably going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This camp is worth every penny. The SO and I attended the camp a couple of years back in Conyers (with Gene), and although I have been mtb&#8217;ing for over 20 years, I learned a ton.  To this day, there&#8217;s hardly ever a ride where we are not actively practicing a BR-taught technique.</p>
<p>We have discussed attending another camp in the future to further hone our skills. It&#8217;s probably going to happen.</p>
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